So if you don’t know, this talent made it so that casting Heal, Flash Heal, or HW: Serenity on a target refreshes your Renew, if you had a Renew on them.
I loved this talent.
A lot.
Why? It wasn’t because it made healing easier or that I’m lazy and don’t like applying Renew over and over - although that is part of it.
It’s because this talent increased the level of engagement I felt while healing, and I enjoyed playing that little game of waiting to see how long I could let Renew sit on my target before refreshing it with a long cast of a regular Heal. It brought fun, for me atleast, during those times when I should’ve been dps’ing.
But it’s more than that. I don’t exactly know what it is in the human brain, or in mine, that made me like things like this so much. It was… Satisfying… to see that little green Renew hot refresh on my party members.
When I ran a dungeon today, I swear to you, I must have hit Renew 502958 times - and it was absolutely horrible. I hated it so much. I hate recasting Renew over and over and over and over and over and over again.
It’s so bad It’s got me considering if I even want to main Holy anymore.
Honestly, I didn’t even remember that talent existed. It was probably removed due to lack of usage.
It doesn’t even bring that much to the table, it’s a very odd talent to base your gameplay around. if that’s what Holy Priest was all about for you, then maybe you should play a HoT-centered spec.
The main problem with enduring renewal is that it didn’t get refreshed with any direct priest healing. The limitation of only being able to refresh with single target healing is the reason why it was never picked.
I’ll also point out that Benediction also needs a bit of help. If it had a 50% instead of 20% chance of leaving renew, it’d be much better.
Edit: On further thought, Benediction can really use 100% proc chance. Why have a talent that only works a % of the time? It’s makes it feel like a wasted choice for every time it doesn’t actually work.
Enduring Renewal should be baseline and added back to Binding Heal. We lost so many cool spell interactions, it really sucks.
Imo Benediction shouldn’t exist at all. It’s completely passive and devalues Renew. I would rather have Divine Insight take its place, or maybe something else that changes Prayer of Mending in an exciting way.
The entire reason I liked Enduring Renewal is because I hate hots (but I love HoTS the video game, lol). It allowed me to only place the hot on one time, or much fewer times. I hate resto druid, having to manage 50 gazillion hots. It’s the same reason I don’t like warlock.
Edit: On further thought, Benediction can really use 100% proc chance. Why have a talent that only works a % of the time? It’s makes it feel like a wasted choice for every time it doesn’t actually work.
I was thinking this too. Maybe they thought the 25% was okay because they made Prayer of Mending instant cast.
I sorta remember, like never EVER using enduring renewal after they removed Cascade’s renewal? Making renew more mana-expensive at the same time as removing the only ability that could make it competitive with the other talent picks, was a double-whammy, relegating it to flavor/meme status.
Nothing of value was lost here, not after the previous nerfs, anyways.
Enduring Renewal was a decent choice back in Legion when Binding Heal wasn’t nerfed into oblivion. Holy has a quite few talent rows that have just gone stale over the past 2 expansions.
With Renew becoming a pure HoT and having its base healing increased means Enduring Renewal finally might have been a good talent, or maybe even too strong so I’m also sad to see it go. There is finally a chance to make use of it and it gets replaced with another throw away useless talent.
Well now that Renew got a really nice buff looks an ok Talent tho I think the proc rate should be around 35% - 40%.
Now that you will be spamming PoM more than before makes it a valid option.
The new talent tho is pretty bad too but better than enduring renewal, Trail of light is waaaay better for cleave healing in M+.
I would prefer it if Benediction stated that only the first 1-2 targets received renew, so it’s something that works every CD of Mending and is somewhat controllable. Would make it able to consistently keep renew on a tank.
this i would like, as i dislike halo and divine star and like the new renew talents+bene not only on pvp lvl, but pve one too. assuring even 1 renew would be nice or like, “first person 100% chance and drops like 20% chance per stack of mending there is” so 100% on first person, 80% on second, 60% on third, etc
Yeah, the renew refresh was unique. Resto druids were never about refreshing HoTs with direct heals, and Holy has been able to do this since cataclysm.
Everything unique and exciting about Holy has been completely removed. It is the most blandest healer ever, with a talent tree full of passives that change absolutely nothing about how you play it. Cheers to another xpac of Flash Heal and Prayer of Healing spam, how fun.
They could make Halo to work as today’s Starfall from druids.
Make halo only do damage to enemies who are in combat so we can actually use this spell in M+ without pulling everything.
Refreshing the weakest hot in game felt unique to you? Ok it’s been in since cata and has not been used at any competitive lvl since it’s creation, in other words it was a noob trap Talent, but I don’t mean your a noob
I didn’t use Renew, or the talent that refreshed it, because I thought it was smart for my HPS or anything like that. I’m not in competitive content, I don’t care about being the ultra best healer ever. I just cared about having fun, and for me, this now lost interaction with our Renews being… renewed… was a lot of fun and brought good spell interaction.
I think the idea about buffing benediction helps you out more here than reverting a change that was an actual huge buff for the spec as a whole. Mana option, split target option all be it mediocre, and single target buff option. The old renew refresh was not a single target buff in anyway cause it didn’t change the renew into one you couldn’t have just reapplied urself and it didn’t save you near as much mana as the 10% regen does. It really just had no place. But a benediction buff to reduce reapplies is a definite option
it’s been in since cata and has not been used at any competitive lvl since it’s creation, in other words it was a noob trap Talent, but I don’t mean your a noob 