Can we please address the fact that they have 0% arena representation?
A few key points-
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Greater heal-The only healing spell in the holy priests toolkit able to keep up with dampening, yet impossible to use because of a 3 second cast time. The cast time needs to be lowered to ~2.2 seconds.
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No power word shield- Why???
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Only spec with zero baseline defensive cds- Why???
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Zero mobility- Why???
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The most important point- Why has the community accepted that holy priests will never be viable???
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I’m looking through the WoW manual and nowhere does it state that holy is a pve only spec.
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If you look hard enough you’ll see there’s never been a season where Holy was a valid choice.
Disc and Shadow have always been the PvP Priest specs.
It’s a PvE spec.
The one great thing about this expansion are the pvp talents. There is no reason why those can’t be adjusted to increase their viability.
I’ve seen them around 2k just spamming holy light pretty effectively, these talents do look fairly bland though:
https:// thelootdistrict. com/pvpstats/?class=priest&spec=holy&showme=pvptalents&faction=all®ion=all&bracket=all&rating=2000
I see some Holy priests at or around 2k, but that could also be them changing specs and the website marking them down as holy too. Not sure.
The entire kit for holy just has never really screamed PvP, in fact I think I’ve seen more holy priests in arena now than ever, which is saying something because it’s been maybe 3-4 total =/
Holy/Destro seems pretty good. However, the only explanation I can give you in regards to representation is the following -
Blizzard has no idea on what they are doing.
I see Drainer play holy.
I’ve always wondered tho is Gheal mandatory to play Holy? Seems like holy is one of the most efficient healers with the mana nerf
I have a priest alt I never play cus Holy jus has so many heals it overwhelms me xD
I think so. when you watch them play they just spam it nonstop in hopes you kick that instead of bolt (holy/destro is popular like beastjames mentioned.)
So you either let the Destro get healed to full or you choose to get a big old slap in the face if the Destro is using CDs.
I don’t think you were around in MoP then if you actually think this.
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I played but not very intently. I don’t recall seeing Holy being very popular, but I wasn’t very invested. The only thing I played consistently was RSham or UHDk. Lock for PvE and World PvP hilariousness.
They’re good with caster comps.
I disagree. Caster comps work with anything, you could replace the priest with any other healer and it would be far better.
Holy: Useless 100% of the time
Disc: Bounces between way too good and nearly useless.
The Result: Priests are the only class with 2 Healing specs but often both are bad. All because of the “Durr Holy a PvE spec it should suck” mentality that the community has combined with Blizzard not knowing what to do with either spec. Another huge problem Priests have always historically had is an extremely limited number of comps compared to every other healer.
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I like my Holy priest right now. Though I think it could use a bit more love.
I don’t feel like greater heal is mandatory but I feel like any game I don’t go Gheal I feel like I have to tell my team “Ok you got 2-3 minutes to win GL” anything longer then that is a miracle it seems.
mop and wod holy was pretty decent, just not as good as disc cus of saving grace. mostly mop tho ya it was fun af
I really liked Chakra’s. But that’s just me.
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was cool needing a cancel aura macro to turn off chakra inbetween globals to use chastise, instead of using a whole global to switch to the red chakra
I think the lack of crossover between holy and disc is hurting the class.
For example, pain suppression needs to become a pvp talent that both specs have access to. Disc is also severely lacking in raw healing output and should really have access to renew and burst healing that isn’t tied to an empowered penance.
It seems silly that disc literally has two pvp healing spells, and holy has so many that they don’t even have enough globals or mana to use them.
Basically the idea that disc = shields and holy = healing with no shields is piegeonholding the class and both specs need an entire rework.
Holy is terrible right now for one major reason, if they are locked out of Holy, they are left to Psychic Scream or cast Mind Control. They also have basically no offense. There PvP talents don’t address their, susceptibility to interrupts apart from Holy Word; Concentration, an 8 sec AoE that prevents Silence/Interrupts on a 45 sec CD that has a .5 sec cast time…Greater Heal is a band-aid. Make Shadow Mend a PvP talent in place of Greater Heal and give Holy a reduction to interrupts baseline of say 35% or so and go from there and Make Holy Word: Concentration last 10 sec and be instant cast. Still would have so many issues, but would be more playable…