It’s because they do. Why else would they make Holy Words only a 15s instead of 30s reset on Holy Word Salvation? Because the tier set makes you generate 2x more Holy Words.
They made Sanctify hit 5 instead of 6 targets because of the Renew bonus from the 2-piece and the fact you’re getting 2x Holy Words.
They nerfed Divine Image because of the higher uptime with the tier set bonus. Then they nerfed Divine Star / Halo / PoM to drop our hps.
This led to Holy Priests being way on the bottom of the hps charts because we got hit with a -10% total hps nerf. We were over nerfed because of our tier set bonus and we still need at least a 8-10% hps buff to be middle of the pack.
I don’t want a tier set bonus where they have to nerf our entire spec around it.
The proof: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/35#metric=hps&dataset=99
So what? There could be adjustments for next seasons for S1,2, or 3 sets? The S2 is boring click on cooldown and season 3 was awesome giving flexibility, so much more engaging with instant gratification.
I don’t think they would un-nerf the spec if we took the S2 bonus back. They nerfed other classes aoe healing as well, not just because of a new set bonus. S2 was definitely powerful but unless they revert the changes, I’m sticking with S3.
They would most definitely revert some of the nerfs because spot changes to Holy Word Salvation and Divine Image were targeted towards you getting a free Holy Word every 18-20s. It’d be physically impossible to reset Holy Word Salvation otherwise unless the fight was 8+ minutes long.
Also, the S3 bonus “looks” strong when it reality its not. With the S2 bonus you could get an Answered Prayers procs every 30-45s and with that 8s of Apotheosis you could reset 2 Holy Words.
The only strong bonus from S3 is the 2-piece with the free Renews because they scale with Rapid Recovery.
If our 4-piece was op as people thought we wouldn’t be so far behind on the hps charts after two rounds of buffs that were 4-6% hps each.
They can fix us with more buffs, but this is basically a repeat of the dragon flight beta where they assumed holy priest was going to be op so they pre-nerfed and then weeks after they compensated with buffs to wash out the nerfs.
i guess u just focus in raid performance, for M+ S3 set is the best season of holy and raid is good too, S2 tier is funny… u only need press 1 button but dungueons with hardcore check healing break the spec
This is also the easiest season for dungeon healing on-top of a +30% single target healing buff across the board so it’s not really a fair comparison. A lot of the bosses have you twiddling thumbs for 20-30s at a time. You just sit on 1-2 stacks of free holy words constantly.
If we had actual stressful and hard bosses + trash to heal like in S1 + S2 then you’d be evaporating through your free holy word charges as fast as they came up and not getting any real use out of it.
My vote is solely on functionality and what suits my gameplay and not power level. I can only assume power level will be equalized. Vote for whatever you find is most fun for you all!
I voted for Season 3 Tier bonus. I dislike the Season 3 tier bonus, however, I like M+. I don’t like that the current tier makes Holy Words “insignificant” in that we’re swimming in them, but this isn’t the first time that’s happened.
I just have very, very little faith that if we got a different tier bonus, that there would be any changes to adjust the talents that were “damaged” to incorporate the current bonus. I have very little faith that there will be any adjustments to talents to help with M+. So that just leaves doling out stacks of Holy Word:Sanctifys to deal with heavy AoE damage with max Rhapsody stacks. 10.2.5 is done. Maybe 10.2.6? 10.2.7? Sure, there might be some Priest reworks in there but I’d be surprised to see a bullet for Holy included. So the safest bet is Season 3. If I had a Ray of Hope (but seriously, we need Ray of Hope in PvE as our “DR” external), I’d vote Season 1—with the assumption it’d be buffed—because that was more interesting (to me).
I like PoM, but I have a lot of love for all of my spells (love having lots of buttons), just not enough talent points and PoM is very needy.
Personally, I don’t think Holy’s as attached to their current tier set as Discipline is.
The changes going into this patch also made Lightweaver actually not that bad (I promise I’m not trolling). It’s actually decent now, we just can’t ever run it because MW and DI are absolutely necessary with our tier set.
All that would need to happen balance-wise is roll back the salv nerf and holy wouldn’t really be much worse than it is currently.
That said, I still think the tier 3 bonus is probably the most fun to play outside salv resets, so . I really wish we could get the Tier 3 bonus but let it give a +1 charge when it procs, so that I’m not forced into MW.
Really should have both the notes where you said you were going to buff set bonuses that were previously nerfed and list the actual set bonuses here, preferably with some initial changes showing that they would be buffed… I think both here and in most other voting posts people are going to vote S3 no matter what because they don’t know these things…
Luckily this is like the only spec in the game that would be happy running any of our tier sets minus the 4 set from season 1 in PvP so I don’t care which set wins.
That said the most satisfying of the sets for me was season 1 but I couldn’t care less which one wins, I just think it’s absolutely stupid that we aren’t getting all 3 tier set bonuses for all specialisations in FATED…
I wish they increased the number of tier slots instead (maybe belt + boots?) to give us the option to use a 4 piece and a 2 piece… It’s not like fated season matters at all, it’s supposed to be fun.
If I had a Ray of Hope (but seriously, we need Ray of Hope in PvE as our “DR” external), I’d vote Season 1—with the assumption it’d be buffed—because that was more interesting (to me).
. I really wish we could get the Tier 3 bonus but let it give a +1 charge when it procs, so that I’m not forced into MW.