Hello, ret degenerate main here.
So I like to dabble in holy for m+. I was hoping to run AC and veneration for m+ but haven’t seen a guide with it.
Is it a viable build? What about for 11.0.5?
Hello, i currently play this as lightsmith, you may copy my build. Personally i prefer running dual beacon and having holy bulwark. To me it has felt like more consistent healing and damage prevention as the bulwark is an absorb and cannot overheal like our big holyshocks can if you are herald. AC healing is good because we have wings more often, nearly for every pack if you are good at proccing awakening which just feels nice.
I think with the lightsmith buffs this week and in 11.0.5 it will surpass herald and maybe even topple rsham by the time all of the buffs are live. I would just like to see divine inspiration buffed a bit.
Veneration does not offer much healing overall. I think personally this should be changed to an absorb shield. It does feel nice in the event someone happens to need healing, but generally you should not hold it specifically as a heal. It should just be as your rotation flows.
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How well do you do if you’re forced out of melee?
Like Xandra said Lightsmith is very good with AC you will have less healing throughput to do I do not recommend if you are getting into Holy paladin to start with this style. I like it personally but as right now the most important thing is to move bars.
Go with Herald and get into the traditional wings. you can visit Ellesmere website too for a comprehensive guide of that to do just google “WingsisUp”
The DPS difference between a Herald is a lot I normally average 250k with herald in keys and with lightsmith I have seen myself in the range of 350-370k. but the healing profile is def not worth the 100k dps.
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What do you do if you’re forced out of melee
This is interesting to read. I really wish LS becomes good enough for m+ in the future to have more representation, even if its not with AC.
This is all you need. WingsisUp. You have a detailed guide there for everything, one of the best guides for a healer or even spec you will find on the internet.
You even have written guides on how to handle every single boss damage patterns step by step.
Right now, you only use Holy Light for the infusion + the divine favor. out of melee this should be the case with the AC. your AC just change your spell priority rotation after that is the same thing out of wings. I will recommend know the fights and make sure you have Holypower + Beacon ready WoG is not as good as EF. but your weapons and shield out should help.
Like I said LS is superbehind in terms of saving people from stupid stuff. to get the value of LS you need to have a coordinated group who knows what are they doing. so you can use the weapons for saving people and going through the dungeons quicker. expect to see high holy paladins as LS but it should not be the norm since in lower keys / pugs you need to heal people.
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What about herald with AC?
Also i prefer dual beacons since I feel too much pressure with virtue
Honestly is the same thing but less efficient. what makes AC good with LS is the Damage profile. When in Sun’s avatar you want to utilize your holy shocks as much as possible since they actually heal and you have the 3 holyshocks of rising sunlight.
Holy Paladin is about cicling wings as much as possible between Wings and Awakening with the AC there’s a disruption between the time you get AC and Awakening IMO. also not targeted healing is always a problem.
in the case of virtue.
There’s one thing above anything in these dungeons. AoE times are perfectly allined with the Virtue window. everything is between 12-15 seconds. and you need that because each beacon gives 5% Damage Reduction. so honestly do what I do and get a clique command (in my case is right click) and press it when AoE is coming after that it’s just heal.
Always make sure you have 5 hopo. 1 initial WoG/EF , Holy Shock , WoG/EF you will have the party very healthy for the rest of the AoE. Do not overeact and let them take damage so you don’t waste healing or do overhealing.
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Okay cool. In that case is it normal to overcap HP?
No it’s not normal, you should always be throwing out sotr if you have no healing. There ARE times you will be willing to overcap if a huge damage window is up, but for me that usually means; I’m at 5 hp > see damage window inc > pop virtue early so everyone gets dr > pre-cast holy light (if procs available) for when damage happens then drop wog > shock > wog.
Other than that try to drop your hp with sotr when you hit 5, unless you see a big damage window incoming.
Edit: also stitchflesh sucks for us, do-able but my god the constant rot sucks. other than that exmeet is right about virtue window timing.
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