Im praying so bad that since our talent tree did not come out with the rest of our class trees that they are taking time to do it right. Been watching the prot/ret ones and it’s not looking too good.
Hopefully after all these years since legion they have a clear direction for their “fantasy” of holy paladins and not just some thrown together project it has been.
Any of you alpha people keep the feedback on the Paladin alpha forum going please and that’s for all our specs. From my years of playing once beta hits it’s a wrap so we gotta act now.
And PLEASE don’t fight amongst yourselves and derail the threads. I feel it ruins the positive information we got going. Fight as one
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I’m hoping it means they’re changing our mastery.
I’m already really liking the class tree for HPals.
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Yeah man screw that mastery
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I hope they gonna put Avenging crusader and Awakening into 2 different node so I have random proc to get Avenging Crusader.
I wish we could get Protector of the innocent and enlightened judgement back. Or even Grace of the Justicar
Are you joking? The class tree brings nothing new to Hpals; no hybridization, no fun new abilities. It’s terrible.
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Lol no, not joking. Just a better HPal.
So far i’ve seen quite fews nice things in class tree. Like healing group with Consecration where it can heal even more due to Beacon of virtue.
Chance to do strong heal on any heal. That can proc on the little judgement of the light healing.
Rebuke back for holy also.
There is plenty of way to build your Holy pal not sure what you talking. But then again you been angry at Holy pal for a while so.
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You have to give up some pretty huge things to spec for Consecration. It is impossible to get Sanctified Wrath + Mad Paragon and also get the upgraded Consecration talent.
I managed but I had to sacrifice at some places tough. But it all depend if they fix Holy or not cause right now its a huge mess
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I think the building blocks for a great Holy tree are mostly there, but Blizzard should change the placement of some talents.
For example, I think it’s a mistake on their part to make Crusader’s Might, a staple of melee playstyles, so that it has Holy Light as a prerequisite—Holy Light is rarely if ever cast by holy paladins who play a melee playstyle.
I figure they should put the casting talents like Holy Light, Infusion of Light, Tower of Radiance, and Tyr’s Deliverance on one side of the tree, and the melee talents like Crusader’s Might, LotM, Maraad’s Dying Breath, and Untempered Devotion on the other side of the tree. If they did some talent switching, it’d actually be a pretty great tree.
Also, Denounce: they gotta unprune that, whether in the holy talents or not!
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They added the caster Paladin but they forgot the only thing it need to make it Viable Lightbringer on the beacon target(s) with Virtue
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Caster Holy is not viable until they bring back Denounce & Holy Radiance.
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Wonder why they nerfed Beacon of light from 50% to 30%. Yeah and like someone said earlier having Crusaders might behind a holy light talent is nuts and makes no sense. Let us choose the playstyle.
Still holding out for a mastery change, but having Consecration heal is a long time coming so ill take it,
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You can get it back up to 50% if you talent into it. It takes 4 talent points to get Beacon w/ the same functionality we had today.
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You right just looked at the talent calculator and that makes no sense at all lol. Gut it just to make a talent to make it how it is now. Could of atleast put some add-ons to it or some thing.
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So far my only glaring “Wtf why blizz” Impression is the random adding of Blessing of Seasons to the calculator. It probably doesn’t hurt to have as badly since you don’t have to give up Divine Toll to get it, but still, no one really liked the ability from what I could gather.
As of now, alot of the abilities I loved about SL paladin has been preserved, Crusader’s Might, Glimmer, etc, The issue now is more of a matter of organizing the talents to flow better between “I want to smite the wicked with my hammer and be a combat medic” and “I want to stand back and be a priest.”
I’m content enough with what they have for what’s basically their first draft to give them a chance to reorganize and fix it before I’m crying doom and gloom.
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Blessing of Seasons being behind a LoH talent is also very confusing, LoH doesn’t work in rated PvP so you’d need to throw away a talent point just to have access to it.
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There should be no “lay on hands” talents. Can’t use it in PvP anyway and the regular cooldown and use of it doesn’t warrant one to me.
That’s like “turn undead” waste of a talent. Should be baseline and the talent for that should make it work on more mob types then it would be worth it.
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Lo who would pick Turn undead in a dragon expact. I could see it being usefull into Wrath or somethintg but im sure there is like 0 undead creature in next expact
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If they made it an instant cast I could see some very niche PVP usage but beyond that it feels like a trap.
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