They changed the number of drops shortly after release.
An untimed key still drops 2 items, but one is 1 level less.
For example a +15 untimed drops at 236 and 233.
there are no new mechanics. the boss works the same way at +13 that it does at +2. not interrupting = wasting everyoneās time.
iām with this personāiām sick to death of the server queues being overrun with LATAM server customers. Put them in their own battlegroupāsick of not being able to communicate with them.
or, even if blizzard added some ham-fisted google translate functionality plugin. I canāt alt-tab, type in my text, hit translate and paste it in a timed M+
Xiraās back to stun healers. but no, the other guys have no new abilities.
there are no new mechanics. the boss works the same way at +13 that it does at +2. not interrupting = wasting everyoneās time.
One word: Inferno.
What are you talking about?
20% chance to drop an extra piece. It goes up by 20% per level after 15, guaranteed 4th item is +20.
You mean the skill that requires 2 people (or a prot paladin) to get every interrupt? How exactly do you think thatās going to work with people who donāt know what interrupting is and speak another language?
Iām by no means saying that everyone on the Latin American realms donāt speak English, but there is a chance youāre in with 3 that donāt.
Language barriers wouldnāt matter if everyone just did what theyāre supposed to do.
You mean the skill that requires 2 people (or a prot paladin) to get every interrupt? How exactly do you think thatās going to work with people who donāt know what interrupting is and speak another language?
Not a single pug Iāve been in ever discussed the interrupt order and yet they all interrupted every inferno. Emergent behavior vs planned behavior is a fluid dynamic. Interrupts are not even close to the top of the list of why pugs fail. Most failures, in my experience, happen because of a tank doing something cute because they think its a better route/pull/etc. Group fluidity dies when things get unpredictable.
Language barriers wouldnāt matter if everyone just did what theyāre supposed to do.
the expectations of what that is differ somewhat. You should not expect people to read chat all the time during pug runs. You should expect to adjust your behavior to other people as much you expect them to adjust to you. But there is a limit to it. The fine line between people reading the situation and not reading is the fine line between success and failure in pugs.
20% chance to drop an extra piece. It goes up by 20% per level after 15, guaranteed 4th item is +20.
Thatās the regular drops. I am not sure if itās still there, but for a while there was a guranteed extra drop that was 1 level lower if the group finished a timed-out run.
there are no new mechanics.
One word: Inferno.
What are you talking about?
new mechanics which are in the game in 9.1
Yep. TBH, the math genius they found who fixed this scoring system is brilliant. I would like to know who fixed it because it is truly remarkable how much better it isā¦ If you really think about it, it rewards for timing and completing. It is 100x better.
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Gratz, I guess. Doesnāt change a single thing about I said. It requires 2 interrupts in nearly all situations. Iāve had groups fail for no interrupts, it looks like I canāt mitigate, but what it really is is free casting enemies.
I donāt read chat and never post anything in chat until something isnāt happening. Again, if everyone knows whatās dangerous, itās irrelevant that anyone talk. But thatās true for all communication. Itās entirely unnecessary if people just do their jobs.
So, if I have your logic correct, you want things explained to you, but youāre not willing to read chat, and you as a dps are not willing to adjust to a tank picking a different pull or route.
Man, Iād leave your group too lmao
Why are you bringing this up when I said the group couldnāt get past the first boss trio because they werenāt interrupting anything?
If you tunnel vision and let the 2 casters just spam cast on tyrannical, youāre busting your own key. We didnt even make it to any of the lieutenants.
Dude, you bragged about leaving a 13. Do you leave 5ās, too? You can do 13ās in 9.0 gear.
Just out of curiosity, when you say they didnāt focus fire, did bother putting a skull on the kill target? Putting skull on a target is a universal hand wave saying āconcentrate on this.ā
Or are you gonna argue with that one, too?
BTW, "iāve seen people doā¦ " is not an argument. There are still conventions. Some people just ignore them and some people pretend that they donāt exist because they are not aware of them. And yes, I know you havenāt made that argument (yet). I was just pre-empting in case you were going to.
So, if I have your logic correct, you want things explained to you, but youāre not willing to read chat, and you as a dps are not willing to adjust to a tank picking a different pull or route.
Man, Iād leave your group too lmao
Donāt be the guy who is unwilling to suffer a minor irritation even if it means not causing 4 other people a major irritation. Just donāt. You have every right to do it (most of the time). And others will do to you, but itās a relatively small community. Just donāt do it. If the run is scoffed, try to push through. Not saying you have to stay no matter what, but a little tolerance for discomfort will make the game more interesting for you. Or donāt do it. You do you, bud.
3 wipes on the first boss is more than a little tolerance. Iām out at 2 no matter what server anyone is on. We can wipe on any other boss, not the first.
I run only my own keys and do the same.
You can usually tell by the 3rd pull if the run is going to work or not.