has a timer
scales infinitely
Doesn’t drop myth track gear
can’t be timed after failing 400 times
No 12% damage and healing buff
can’t be timed with the GM and his officers friends as dead weights
M+ takes skill for routes, big pulls, interrupts, defensives, stops and healing checks
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making popcorn for this one
And mythic raiding is harder than +10s.
Always gotta love these posts from people hiding on their alts…
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All I know is that I cheer on all those players that can do that harder stuff! Yall rock 
Technically correct, my favorite kind.
Mythic raids pretty static and usually gets nerfed over time to make it easier.
Keys have never been actually beaten (they do have a cap, it was like +40 in legion)
But comparing reward to difficulty, unless things have massively changed since last time i did Mythic the first few bosses are usually about where myth keys cap out on reward increases.
Of course the game mode with the infinitely scaling difficulty will always be harder than the game mode with the static difficulty. That’s just common sense.
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Yes, eventually a key will be harder than mythic raiding. This isn’t controversial it’s just a fact of the game.
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Yes, literally any content with infinite scaling will eventually be harder than any content with static scaling.
Yay math.
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Level 10s can’t do either.
But I do agree, super high (like MDI high) keys are 100% harder for the INDIVIDUAL than mythic raiding. Doubly so for tanks.
I mean, sure? When you have infinitely scaling modifiers, yes at some point it will become statistically harder. That is so far beyond the reward points though it is pretty irrelevant.
This apple is much smaller than that rocket.
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I think I was watching a tettles video recently where he made the comment that keys as low as 12’s were harder than some mythic bosses this season…which seems pretty reasonable. The hardest part about mythic raiding is getting that many people who aren’t complete apes, but from an individual skill requirement point of view I think it’s easier than high keys.
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I think 12s might be harder than the first three bosses. But the roster isn’t the only hard part about mythic raiding.
Probably, but Mythic raiding always involves more people.
Getting 25 people to do something correctly will always be harder than getting 5 people to do that same thing.
Also, many Mythic raid’s end bosses are either impossible or borderline impossible, and get nerfed later.
As is tradition.
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the real problem is the mythic raiders who dont understand that fact and argue against it. they just take that sentence as people saying mythic 10s are harder than mythic raiding which nobody has ever said
It’s also different skill sets. M+ is more personal responsibility and different things are tested than some mythic bosses.
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Mythic raiding takes far more skill.
One person can ruin everything for the entire raid because of one failed mechanic.
You can’t just dps/heal your way through mechanics in Mythic raid.
This right here.
And this right here.
The only purpose of statements like the original post is to gather the popcorn crowd and incite hostility for the sake of burning things.
Comparing apples to toasters is pointless.
Mythic raiding is very difficult.
M+ Keys past 10 are very difficult.
Heroic raiding is also difficult.
10-keys are also difficult.
Down here in this bracket where I actually have more recent experience, I can say without hesitation that healing a 10-key where people make mistakes is on par with healing my heroic raid when people are making mistakes. Healing a 10-key when my people are playing flawlessly is roughly comparable to healing my heroic raid when my people are playing flawlessly.
So, just to be contrary, I would say raiding and M+ at comparable difficulties are about the same as far as skill cap, but I must also add that we approach these two very different modes with different talents, different rotation priorities, and much different group structures.
They are not the same; they are not in competition with each other; they are not truly comparable to each other; and that’s fine.