High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

Then why are you repeating what has been argued already so many times?

You know what I do when I’m not in the mood to argue? I don’t start arguments, specially not old ones.

Just because you’re ok with the distinction blurring even more doesn’t mean it needs to be blurred even more.

And you’re still acting as if DKs and DHs are the same as playable races.

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It doesn’t mean it should or shouldn’t. Both are subjective positions, neither of them is the absolute truth.

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Absolutely. But if Blizzard wants to remain consistent for once with what they say, they should prevent it from getting worse and expand on the Void theme.

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I doubt Blizzard will defeat the purpose of their own AR and I also doubt they would listen to the HE community a third time in a row when at this point it’s to an obvious detriment to the BE visual theme and BE players / fans.

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Nothing stopping blizzard from expanding upon both. I’ve never seen people in the “pro” group demand they exclusively focus on their customization requests.

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Yeah, but if they don’t want to they won’t. It’s not as if they are betraying a stated principle or something.

Besides, if they wanted to they could double down on the Valeera theme too. That’s unique. It has never been an alliance theme. Her eyes and weapons match the fel crystals in Silvermoon and her clothes are horde red, just like the heritage armor.

So if the argument is that people should choose to look unique, well the Valeera look is out there.

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With your selective picking of what’s convenient to you, this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.

It would be exactly betraying a stated principle. They said several times they want the factions to remain distinct. Forgetting about the Void theme and making Void Elves look like something they’re not goes against that, and going further down that path only adds insult to injury.

Valeera has always been a blood elf. And more importantly, a major lore character. Lore characters tend to have their unique look (well, for the most part).

I still wish I had enough faith in them to think they won’t mess it up somehow.

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Not to mention they are on the side blizzard appeased twice, and their continued request is conflicting with people Blizzard hasn’t listened to who value visual distinction.

At that point it is a conflict of pushing what remains for BE players aside and that is an issue for me and many others it seems.

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Valeera is unique, and a blood elf.

Do you want to look like a unique blood elf? Look like Valeera. You say leaders have unique appearances but you want Alleria to not have a unique appearance.

If you don’t choose to use the tools for your uniqueness, then you choose to look generic. Valeera is how Blood Elves look. Literally, like the cinematic. Only warcraft elves have that look.

Alleria looks like a generic elf, because Blizzard copied her from popular culture. If you choose to look generic, and then complain that other people also choose to look generic, then you don’t really care about looking unique.

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OK… But… You know how this will go?

Don’t want to argue don’t argue.

Valeera is technically neutral.

Her only real alliance tie is to the Wrynn name itself.

(that said you’re right they sure could.)

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Okay, but she look way out of place in that boat. Like, even when she takes Anduin’s sword like she serves him or whatever. You know? It’s shocking. Because she looks like the epitome of blood elveness.

IF somebody asked, how does a blood elf look? You would say, well look at Valeera.

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And if you want to look like a BE because you don’t value distinction just be bald or wear a helmet. There we go.

I actually choose to look generic because I want to be another soldier. Hence the soldier uniform. I don’t think visual uniqueness is a factor of games like balance, or performance.

On the other hand, you have the tools to look like you want to, and won’t, because you’d rather wait for others to choose to look different. But you could look unique, you have the tools.

We could never wear green eyes and the heritage armor, it would make you look uniquely blood elf. Like Valeera.

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You don’t think visual distinction is a factor in a faction based game?

Blizzard has always made it factor and continues to do so by not giving you the hair options that is the last defining factor of BE visual uniqueness.

Honestly, and I know you won’t appreciate this. From the perspective of someone who played WC2 Blizzard muddied the faction distinction forever. The alliance used to be good, and the horde bad.

Trolls were only horde. But now we have trolls that are hostile to both factions while trolls are in the horde as well?

For me, that ship sailed in WC3.

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The only options players have to look unique it’s what’s given in the creation screen and the barbershop. Most times they’re not given the same options as their leaders (Poor Lor’themar).

I figured at this point you’d stop assuming people’s stances.

But no, it’s not that simple. I don’t care what Alleria looks like, my issue is that she’s constantly used as a (bad) leverage to push for things that would blur the distinction further.

Occam’s Razor style of thinking tells my monkey brain: “If they use that, then change Alleria so she can look to something similar to them”.

And then, you have several things to consider. Among them is the fact that she’s not their leader, she’s a guide. And that just because she could be given a voidy look, it doesn’t mean it should be the exact same as the players, much like Valeera looks unique but still looks like a blood elf, Alleria could still look unique and still look like a void elf.

Imo, she looks generic because they were afraid of going all the way with a generic character and get actually creative.

Personally I would move on.

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So move on?

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If you look at wow and from the POV of

Yes I think it’s time to get over WC2

And BC, we’re in shadowlands now. Blue eyes are cross faction. The Quel’Dorei style is cross faction.

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