Isnât he locked in eternal combat with Sargeras, to keep Sargeras imprisoned?
In the Demon Hunter intro quests Illidan says after you die that you seem to have a demon soul just like he does.
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If anything, it only makes me think that Auricâs position didnât come out of nowhere, only his last speech at the Sunwell at the end of the Quelâdalar quest in wotlk, was like the result of all that happened in TBC. Itâs a shame that they just left it at that.
At least until they decide to bring him out again, and maybe Sargeras wonât be able to be released because reasons.
Or Sargeras will break free and weâll actually kill him, with Illidan also free and helping us do stuff that xpac. Maybe thatâll be the xpac that DHs get the DK SL treatment.
Hmm, Iâm going to need to go explore that. I guess that means DHs donât go to heaven. 
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The stronger demon hunters that are lucky enough to get Immortal Demon Soulâs donât. Most DHâs would probably go to heaven though.
The use of Auric at the Sunwell was certainly no coincidence, as he was the positioned leader of the High elves in Outland at the time, and had very little reason to dislike the Blood elves of Quelâthalas once he learned that they were not affiliated with Kaelâthas and shared his goals. Heck, he even refers to Lorâthemar, and Rommath as his lords, and refers to themselves as âusâ implying that he counts himself among their goals.
Itâs important that they used High elves from Outland, as they were not involved in the original splintering, and were only now given the opportunity to choose a side.
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It was mentioned that these particular High Elves wouldnât have experienced any of the social or political dilemmas that split their population back on Azeroth, and it seems perfectly reasonable that in the absence of experience they would just default to supporting Quelâthalas.
That being said, I wonder what their thoughts on Alleria adjoining herself to the Alliance might be.
I definitely think many High elves would just naturally return to the Alliance, likely hesitant of the Blood elves after what happened at Firewing Point. But after arriving in Shat, and seeing that the Blood elves among the scryers of Quelâthalas were not the same as Kaelâthasâ followers, would likely be eager to see first hand what had become of their brethren and their homeland.
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Can I have some magic please?
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Speaking of High Elf Positivity.
How bout dem
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Kaelâthas discovery Kelâthuzad is doing dastardly deeds and is in full vengeance mode for Quelâthalas? I am so looking forward to this.
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Not when her in-universe Husbando IS the self insert of the writer in charge of creating the story (look at the totes devoted and absolutely brainless wifey that literally judged the WHOLE of her race for the actions of her cousin and is 100% of the time more invested in the wellbeing of rando humans she just got to meet -I mean, in comparison to who knows how much centuries living in Quel´Thalas-).
She´s the perfect hawt waifu elf tropeâŚ
Which actually shows the atrocious reading comprehension skills / actual lore investment of the people that vouch for the aforementioned âraceâ; cause Helves in game aren´t precisely well written and the less we talk about the disgusting writting surrounding the Windrunners, the better.
She´s fanservice incarnated -no substance for an actual character found there buddy-; so ofc she´s âwaifuâ material⌠and nothing else.
Man, how can you even say Baine has âmoralsâ when the writting -so badly executed- makes it painfully obvious he doesn´t even have this?? How can we say as readers Baine has âgood moralsâ when he was A-Ok with the War of Thorns just because Sadfang was in charge, or when he literally declares his own civilians are = soldiers ergo perfectly fine to butcher (regardless of their actual civilian status) or when he seems more worried over his buddy Sandfang being absent from the final stages of the Undercity scenario than the literal disolution of his Tauren soldiers thanks to the Blight deployment?
The only reason âBaineâ is portrayed as âbeing in the rightâ is NOT because of his character per se, sadly is because that´s usually a collateral resulting from the actual protagonist (A.K.A. Jaina, Anduin and the rest of the self inserts) goals being met.
Your first mistake is pretending they´re unicorn-riding pacifist⌠cause they aren´t. Especially in regards to the Belves.
The faction implementation was cimented as a response to Blood elf admission into Dalaran´s Kirin Tor⌠you can´t get more anti-Belf than that, period.
Heck, Veeresa´s reasoning in ToW was âpossible Sunreaver backstabbinâ -and while we know this was precisely the thing Golden was for-; it comes as supremely short sighted when it was the very Council of the Six the ones that tasked Aethas with securing Belf mage support as per Lor´themar´s short story-⌠ergo Veeresa has already judged AND condemned the Belves as a whole for the actions of a few (heck, remember her "I´m sure Belves can âredeem themselves to the Allianceâ BS opinion in the âThree Sistersâ comic? So not only Belves got the personal brand of Alliance mistreatment TWICE with Dalaran; apparently they are the ones that have to redeem to Dalaran too!!!)
The problem is NOT Jaina NPC killing Belf characters in the scenario, is her issuing ultimatums as a Queen when her political reach doesn´t go so far and WORSE, using a paramilitary faction to enforce it, period.
As âRoad to Damnationâ shows, Aethas ALONE should had been confronted by the Council and judged by all of them appropiately, period. Also, official Kirin Tor forces are the only lawful and legitimate units that can enforce the Council´s choices as per the Suramar questchain demostrates, period.
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Do we actually know how old she is? I looked on the wiki and couldnât find anything.
I do remember her being the youngest of the sisters and that she looked up to her older sisters, maybe they were already adults by a few hundred years already while she was a child.
If sheâs still in her double digits it could explain some of her behavior.
I mean, if a human were to live their life for about 72 years in a single place Iâm sure theyâd be pretty attached, would it be the same for a elf for would it take longer for them?
Something fun to think about.
I know it´s pure foolishness from my part, but I´d kill for a âKael´thas recognizes his mistakes and sins + interaction with BOTH Lor´themar and Rommath to give closure to all parties involvedâ scenario. That´s literally my dream.
But I pretty much doubt this is gonna happen.
It has been merely what, a decade since she married Rhonin? Compared to her remembering her little brother (ergo she lived in Quel´thalas BEFORE the Second War). Math implies she lived longer on Quel´thalas, and Knaak´s novels imply she was particularly affected by the arcane addiction for a Farstrider, making her anti-Belf policies even worse in retrospective. Heck, the old Knaak novels actually mentioned she was understanding of the Belves actions⌠up until Zendarin went cuckoo, and bam!! suddenly she blames ALL the Belves for the actions of Zendarin, cerifying Veeresa´s character development as a combination of dumb blonde trope with Elizabeth Bennet who never grew up from the first dance scene in the P&P book (ergo, dumb, prejudiced AND hypocritical).
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A bit off topic but I wonder how elves raising a family would be, I imagine it would be alot easier than as a human.
have one, raise it to adulthood, wait a couple decades to a century and do it again.
Because elves have plenty of time they could afford to get their children a proper education, training, and skills well into their childâs adulthood without having to worry about if they will be able to have more kids later on in life.
And thatâs not even getting into how long they have to perfect their art of parenting or the perks of having extra help in the form of their now grown up offspring.
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Indeed⌠however the draback of this is that elves apparently take too long for each new batch of kids, making the loss of children particularly problematic and tragic for them.
In an actual coherent narrative BOTH Nelves and Belves would have ditched their âAlliesâ assapt and kept to themselves to properly rebuild, NOT participate in rando wars that don´t even benefit them.
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I guess in war, sometimes quantity can be better than quality.
Please, we´re talking about Blizz writers here!! The only thing that matters is to give screentime to the self inserts / pet characters and bend the story like a pretzel so those get to look âgoodâ (my opinion? the reason current lore sucks SO bad is because the writers basically use the story as bragging material using their self inserts / pet characters as a vehicle to accomplish this)
She was a little over 50ish in the book she met rhonin in I think.
Not sure if thatâs still canon though even if I am remembering right.
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Man the âyoungâ generation of thalassians IS a disappointment (Aethas, Veeresa and Valeera⌠compare their character development to the other thalassian characters and they are SO bad it even beats the disgraceful butchering of Sylvanas).
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