High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

Yeah that is a bit sad, I guess I’m more optimistic things will be touched up later.

And if I’m being honest I’m okay with Silvermoon not receiving an update if it means no potential warfront, no destruction, etc.

I think we’re lead to believe aren’t we that the Silvermoon of today is progressed past BC Silvermoon as all of Quel’thalas too? If so I’m fine with knowing that’s the case but in game just doesn’t reflect that yet. And when they get around to putting resources to it I hope they’ll do an update justice if they decide to update it.

I just lost my city and most of my people. Hard to remain optimistic.

Especially since they have nice new textures for night elven stuff and used them during the warfront
 But no sign of our civilization rebuilding
 Or even reclaiming the rest of our homeland.

Bah. I hope they update all the major cities and rebuild one for the Night elves and forsaken
 But I’m not holding my breath.

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I still think NEs should have retaken Darkshore in full CGI cinematic glory considering the war started in a CGI cinematic spot that is so traumatic to NE fans. Speaking of the cinematic we did get
 why haven’t I seen it in game? I thought all I had to do was heroic Darkshore and I’d trigger it somehow?

it, factually, isn’t.

You calling my Void Elf Pally not a Pally? Oh, I am so going to equip my other mace and give you a taste of double justice.

Why is this is so hard to comprehend? People do not want to play as traitors who have given into their base instincts who torture angels and mind control their own citizens. If they did they would be horde already. They want to play as the high elves that stayed loyal and didn’t join the lunatics and have fought against evil rather than embracing it.

They aren’t made up as much as you may wish they were.

Regarding the helf paladin option - why are people so sure that Helves have them to begin with?

The’re only two NPCs that I know that can be this class.
Uther’s subject who wanted to desecrate his tomb.
And Turalyon’s son who is actually a half-elf.

When helves are appearing they’re either rangers or sorceres, so what’s with the idea of helves being paladins?

There’s a High Elf paladin in Dalaran.

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Listen, I know I technically can’t play a non-corrupted/void High Elf who never joined the Horde.

But I can Roleplay one.

Roleplaying as non-Void High Elf does not hijack void elves, but expands upon void elf Roleplay.

Now not only do you have people roleplaying the usual ex-blood elf Void elves, but im sure people will Roleplay High Elves who became Void Elves, and also regular/traditional High Elves.

Its similar to people using the AU Mag’har race to Roleplay an Outland Mag’har. Technically there not playing a MU orc, but the regular brown skin option for the AU Mag’har makes you look just like one from Outland. So it gives players an option who don’t want to be restriced with the AU Draenor background.

Just as its dumb to get on their case for not Roleplaying AU orcs, its stupid to get on the case of those who want to pretend there void elf is a regular silver covenant high elf.

I don’t have an issue with those people whatsoever. You can role play whatever you want.

I have issues with the high elf people trying to hijack the race now and completely water them down. What I do have issues with is people asking for the racial to be changed, for void elf paladins, to be less void-oriented. (Example: I don’t want to turn purple during battle - my immersion as a high elf will be ruined is one example)

So yes, you can role play a high elf to your hearts content but cmon guys


You claim how much you love elves and now y’all are making demands, not caring who you even walk over so you can get your precious high elves.

That’s what i’m not happy about.

I’m sorry but I love my race and its not cool to see people (who hated us when we were purple and WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH US) come in and try to change things/making demands now that we have a light skin, blue eyes option.

Frame it how you want but that’s how it looks.

You hated us when we had dark skin and now that we can have light skin and blue eyes, suddenly everyone loves us? Like, don’t wanna say what that sounds like but ya know


Can you guys not see how that’s just a little insulting? Even after all you’ve endured from other people hating on you for wanting high elves?

Stop trying to change my race.

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i think the whole planet is gonna have an epic prepatch event. lol

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As a guy with no skin in the pro-HE/anti-HE debate but has supported everyone’s desire to get the customization they want, I would have to say to those who see this as a win, Congratulations. To those who don’t, I hope you get something more to your liking one day, but I’m seeing less of a way forward barring something like “Light-forged High Elves,” and does anyone want that? :slight_smile: This does strike me as something more akin to a “compromise” than the original Void Elf story (if lore is provided connecting them to Alliance High Elves at least, or if we assume the same connection can be made between HE and VE as between Dwarves and the new WIldhammer customization), but Blizzard could’ve saved themselves a lot of trouble, as has already been noted by many of us, if they had simply drawn Void Elves from any one of the Alliance-aligned High Elf groups in the first place (i.e, Alleria’s Elves that she took with her to Outland would’ve been a fine choice imo).

I never understood why Blizzard thought drawing them from Horde Blood Elves was going to win over Alliance High Elf fans, but then they were created in the same era as “Do you guys not have cell phones?” so there it is.

Thought on Void Elf Paladins (not giving a good or bad, just entertaining the thought):
Back in the day, Priests had some extra abilities based on race. How about something similar. Say for a Void-infused race like Void Elves, taking on a power antithetical to their nature, like the Light, and specifically Paladins here, they have to maintain a careful balance to not go boom. Say that as they use Holy spells, they fill a bar towards a build-up. The more they fill the bar, the worse it gets for them: a debuff, up to a heavy DoT akin to being in lava. GIve them an ability called “Void Dispersion” to dump this bar, with a scaling benefit to doing so, starting from a debuff on nearby enemies to an AoE attack with a full bar. So, it gets more dangerous the longer you wait but it comes with a payoff if you can wait long enough without going boom.

Give a matching one to the opposite side, say a Lightforged Draenei playing a Shadow Priest. Call it “Holy Dispersion”, range its benefits from a small AoE HoT to an AoE Holy-Nova kind of effect, maybe giving a short buff on the high end.

The idea being you’re trying to bring down the power you’re naturally infused with to handle more of the power you’re using “unnaturally.”

Of course this would require other race/class combinations to be given equally compelling abilities, so it probably won’t happen, but it was something I was thinking of as I was reading the post, so thought I’d share.

Silvermoon Warfront:
Let me preface this by saying that I’ve said on several occasions how I’m done with the faction war because I don’t think it’s ever going to be resolved in a satisfactory way for everyone.
That said, if we’re going to have a faction war, I agree any city should be fair game for an attack, lorewise. If there can be an interesting story to tell with a SIlvermoon warfront, why not. I doubt Blizzard is going to make any capital city change hands lore-wise or gameplay-wise. Personally, I would love for Alliance players to sound like they have more fire in their belly. Maybe it’s just the threads I end up reading, but I’m tired of seeing the Alliance players always sounding downtrod when talking about their faction. Some Horde players like to make comments about burning down Teldrassil, The Alliance should have something they can talk about. What do they get to say? “Yeah, well,
 we made Sylvannas blight her city. Stop blighting yourself! Stop blighting yourself!”

So yeah, I wouldn’t be terribly upset by “We’re gonna take Silvermoon for the Alliance!” We all know the Alliance wouldn’t be allowed to canonically win a Silvermoon warfront. Period. If there was even the tiniest chance of Blizzard doing that, the Blood Elf (player) backlash alone would dwarf the complaints that the Alliance didn’t really win Undercity.

If the concern is that we would sit too long without a canonical winner, I posit this: make it part of a pre-expansion event. Then we won’t have it for long. If we were to have this, then the best reason (in my opinion, of course) for it would be to tell a narrative where the HE/VE as a people (or peoples), seeing the carnage this battle wrought on the land they professed to love and the people who remained there and still call it home, came to the conclusion there was no place left for them in Silvermoon, and to completely sever any hope or desire of reclamation or reunification so they can finally and firmly turn their attention towards their own future and founding a realm to call their own. This would then be Blizzard’s opportunity to tell that story in the ensuing expansion. Whether or not one believes Blizzard is capable of telling such a story Is up to oneself.

That would keep the legacy of Silvermoon in the hands of the Blood Elves, and it would give the High Elves and Void Elves of the Alliance a clear chance to grow their own narrative (as if they didn’t have enough opportunity already). Hopefully everyone would be happy at that.

Anyway, that’s my two cents.
Take care all, and enjoy any good news about Shadowlands you can find :slight_smile:

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I think you’ll find Blizzard have not ‘acknowledged that Pandaren were a mistake.’

People like you just don’t seem to quite grasp there is a world of difference between these elves being a potential shared faction, and arbitrarily asking for ‘Can we have Alliance Orcs?’.

Anyway those elves have never been and continue not to be an exclusive Horde race. This is an actual fact. For ages they weren’t playable on Alliance, yes, but so what?

  1. There is nothing there saying Pandaren were a mistake
  2. The question in the tweet was directed at Ghostcawler. Not all of Blizzard.
  3. Ghostcawler said he is not a fan of all.

I’d really wish people would stop saying “Blizzard said Pandaren were a mistake”.

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Sara, being the blizz lead of the time is pretty much hates they made pandaren, indirectly proves my statement, so as such it still stands. Thanks for going through the trouble of getting the evidence.

Because ppl don’t wants to play the horde loving, power craving versions of the high elves? Nor do ppl wants to play void infused versions of the hordes versions that went double agent?

I’m merely stating we shouldn’t reward blizz for laziness as it leads to bad precedents. You guys can be happy for this for the time being, but it still is blizz being lazy and not giving both the VE camp what they actually want (more void elf customizations) and what the BE wants (no blood elf customizations on VE) or what the HE wants (seperate HE race).

He never has, and never will.
All ion, and the rest of Blizzard for that matter, cares about is a bunch of numbers.

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Wouldn’t be the first time.

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This is disappointing. We’re playing a roleplaying game and you’ve decided that the only possible character you can roleplay as is the default template story. And the wrong one at that.

“Horde loving” is hardly what Blood Elves are.
Void Elves didn’t want to leave their homeland, they were exiled due to the Blood Elves’ fear of their meddling with the Void, which isn’t unreasonable, but neither does it mean that the Void Elves intentionally left behind Quel’thalas.

I quite enjoy the convoluted and grey angles of the elves’ storylines. Come now, you can do better than watering them down to smooth brains fighting over a red banner or blue banner, because the story certainly allows for it.

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