Yeah we got the model, the least important aspect. Iâd rather have an altered model and stance with the actual high elf lore.
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I can get saying it was a bad decision, or a bunch of other arguments about it. But I canât see denying that it was blizzard trying to find a mid point between two opposed sides. You can think they failed to do a good job at it, but I canât see saying that it wasnât trying to take into account both sides.
But not changing up the high elf story to include a playable faction that will appear large and could change the appearance of the blood elf struggle up until the sunwell was restored.
exactly. We would be more than happy to just take the existing high elf model as they are and give them some new face options and that is our playable high elves.
We made extensive changes while still keeping them clearly a high elf. That is the compromise.
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Thatâs a compromise from this point the same way me saying âWell, you can keep the Void elves, and say a few of them are high elves and then have blizzard wipe out every single non-blood or void Thalassian elf from existence.â is a compromise.
Yâknow what would be a compromise though?! Half Elves 
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this doesnât make sense. What do you mean appear large? If you unite all of the currently separated groups of high elves aligned with the alliance you have a population that canonically would be higher than many currently playable races. They have always been there.
And this wouldnât retcon previous lore as the idea we push for their recruitment is the high elves finally uniting and establishing a separate government. A sort of new nation for high elves instead of looking to reclaim quelâthelas for the alliance.
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OR perhaps Allied Races was simply a feature they felt best introduced a cool new Elf race. But didnât take High Elves off the table because they may introduce them down the line.
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Nothing has to be changed though. Theyâre already there just instead of npcs weâd have pcs.
Where does this idea come from that suddenly the blood elves are devalued through playable high elves.
The blood elf story would continue as normal and their sunwell would be the same.
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exactly. They can say void elves are a compromise all they want but we know from interviews and QnAs that blizzard just thought they were a cool new idea they wanted to try out.
They didnât use the existing high elf population even though they could have. It is like they instead were tucking them away for later use so they donât anger some of their playerbase.
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MASSIVE Citation Needed there.
From every single time the story team goes âYou know what would be a good idea? Making the Horde the villain!â Or stuff in novels where a blood elf waxes poetically about how when he was greedily thinking about just his survival his high elf spouse wouldnât give up her morals. Thatâs where this idea comes from.
light forged draenei, the entire population fits on the vindicaar. hehe
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What does this have to do with playable high elves though.
I donât think the horde should be painted with the villain bat either, thatâs up to the writers. People requesting high elves have no influence on this.
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Are Void Elves themselves proof enough population doesnât matter also? âElite Squadâ
The devs said no foreseeable plans in the near future? I wonder what races may be introduced post customization update IE: after Shadowlands or even during the middle of Shadowlands perhaps 
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With the Allied Races youâve announced, what kind of gaps do they fill thematically, or aesthetically, or mechanically in the Horde and Alliance factions?
Shani : âWell, one great thing about them is theyâre all new customizations. The Void Elves, for example, they have some of the most elaborate hairs that weâve ever done on any player character race. They have Void Tendrils at the end of them, they have a special mechanic that changes their color when they hit procs in in combat.
âAll the Allied Races have their own unique mounts, their own unique heritage armor sets. And the other cool thing is the Nightborne allow the Horde to play something that is similar to the Night Elf, and the Void Elves allow the Alliance to play something thatâs similar to a Blood Elf. So, thatâs kind of a, swapping of the factions where you get to experience the other factions.â
Thatâs not many races, and someone in the thread earlier was using this same argument with gnomes.
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I have made this point and proved it so many times in these threads I have become sick of it. Why do I have to keep repeating the process to the same people every few weeks?
I used math to get those population numbers. We have semi accurate canon numbers of kaelâthas army at very stages through his campaign from dalaran throughout outland into BC. Scaling that up based off the percentages given for how the surviving thalassian population was distributed we arrive at the bare minimum high elves have a population in the thousands. This can go into the tens of thousands.
Meanwhile races/groups such as the exodar draenei, tauren, and darkspear trolls donât have that many. They would have a population in the high hundreds. Tauren could possibly get into the thousands but we simply donât know their situation enough to determine that.
Gnomes are another race that we donât know exactly how many they have but it isnât high. I want to place them in the thousands but they could be in the hundreds as well. At the low end for high elves gnomes could have a higher population however if we go into the theoretical high end of the possible high elf population they definitely have more than gnomes.
and finally population for races doesnât matter. That argument is only ever brought up for high elves even though already playable races have a lower population.
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No you didnât as there are no actual numbers to do math with in the first place.
exactly. I canât but help imagine 10.0 being an old world revamp with a high likelihood of a timeskip.
It is the perfect time to go back to the old world and a timeskip would help the story. time moves much slower in the shadowlands. A few days there is years on azeroth.
If we have an old world revamp why not add in a bunch of those races that we would be seeing? high elves, broken, ogres, and so on.
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what is your point? nothing you posted contradicts what I have said.
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I was not the biggest fan of the time skip in SWTOR so I would have to see how it was done Iâm a bit leery of them now⊠but regardless I do think returning from Shadowlands is ideal for a old world revamp and has potential to bring High Elves!
regular draenei. entire population fit on the exodar, which admittedly is bigger than the vindicaar but still⊠they didnt have a city / village set up on azeroth for centuries, just a crashed spaceship, newly arrived, many of which died in the crash. and those were just the ones who survived the guldan-orc genocide.
will admit theres more draenei potentially, than high elves, primarily because the lore only addresses the ones living in or near quelâthalas.
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