Ofcourse. Anything to impress there Chinese girlfriends.
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retconned. once blood elves went horde, any rationale for why they would do that to themselves was inserted, re-worded and massaged. for example, at the same time garithos was trying to kill them off, the night elves were helping them.
prior to the decision to make them a horde race, the moonwells built in the ghostlands were put there by the night elves to help the blood elves. this is why they team up and become allies in the rts.
when the decision was made to put them on the horde, the devs felt they had to make them more monstrous, thus was born the various concepts such as them losing their souls, being bitter, draining a naaru, and siding with their enemies.
now think about this - why would kael hold the entire alliance and the night elves, guilty for what garithos did, when just before and even during that event, they had been allied with the night elves? they never quit being allies till tbc. and why would the night elves need countless bases in the ghostlands if the only point was to spy on the blood elves? they werent there to spy originally. those are safe encampments for the nelfs and belfs, who were allies during the war against the scourge.
think of it like its the rts transposed into the game. as you moved thru an embattled area, youâd build a base. you might have several such camps, which is what you see in ghostlands. for some reason, the devs just left the camps there after the decision was made to put the blood elves on the horde, and turned the encampments into enemy camps instead. so their only allies in the area were turned into enemies. and their enemies were turned into allies.
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i love my blonde hair
your mog is awesome. just thought iâd tell ya that!
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Itâs not extremely unpopular thereâs a vanishingly small very loud minority of players massively against it.
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did you faction change? i wanted to see your transmog
I think itâs fair to say they made the right decision. Night Elves constantly get shown to dislike other Elves, especially since other Elves all seem to stem from Highborne. So Blood Elves and Nightborne⌠and to be honest Shandris didnât seem to keen on Void Elves during the war campaign either, that traditional Night Elf caution to the point of being rude.
It does make sense to me however that they would view the Blood Elves poorly. And would actively try to do things because at the time the BEs were neutral, so what would the NEs want perhaps? To actively sabotage Blood Elf Alliance relations. As it would have it it seemed they may have been trying to prove to the Alliance (the dwarf emissary + their scheming) that the BEs were bad or should not be trusted. And all it ended up doing in my opinion was pushing the Blood Elves to the conclusion itâs the Alliance that cant be trusted.
It also makes more sense that Sylvanas Windrunner have a soft spot for her homeland. Why would the NEs send help to the Sinâdorei, but their own beloved fallen Ranger General would either not and or itâs assumed would invade?
The Garithos stuff is nice fluff, it sets the tone for the Blood Elves starting out neutral. And is easy to cite as an additional reason to not be Alliance, but not the reason they arenât Alliance.
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I xfered itâs just the pally mythic antorous set plus the goggles which are hidden on my usual heart of darkness helm but not for engy so I remember to swap. Sword is the white blue gold one from I think ToT.
retconned. its all retconned. their attitude towards other elves, is retconned. if anything other elves had a low opinion of night elves because they embraced druidism instead of higher magic, like arcane. but blood elves shared an interest with night elves in druidism, even had a mother world tree right smack in the middle of quelâthalas, where deatholme is now.
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I think to be fair when they first run into the Sinâdorei and Kael they are mostly taken aback. As in, do we know that they know what happened to their kin they exiled all those years ago? It was probably a loss for words. So their reaction to help them when they were in a distant land themselves now, wouldnât be the norm but the exception in my opinion.
not sure i understand what you mean
You said that they had to retcon the NEs into disliking the BEs in BC. And Iâm saying their reaction to the BEs in WC3 seemed to be abnormal given how they also reacted to the humans and orcs. Making that reaction the exception not the rule, so in WoW they just went back to being how they normally are, there is no more surprises about the Blood Elves to them, they decided to not trust them which seems to be the normal reaction for them.
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it isnt other elves thats the problem, its all based on the use of dangerous magics, not the people, the magic. if they are wary of the void elves, its because void magic is dangerous. if they are wary of arcane users, its because arcane is dangerous and caused the sundering. certainly not any worse than lorâthemar realizing void magic is dangerous near the sunwell and telling the void elves to leave.
and soon, if pyromancer is right, weâll find out nature and holy magic are dangerous also. its just common sense, not xenophobia. but its been massaged into xenophobia because theres gotta be an excuse to make former allies into enemies of each other.
i dont blame lorâthemar for exiling the void elves. that was a smart decision. or do you think its evidence of his xenophobia?
The Night Elves seem to hold a grudge towards other Elves all based on their grudge against the Highborne. They let some Highborne in, but they integrated into their society and I donât recall but are they even well liked? It still stands that they didnât have to retcon Night Elves to disliking Blood Elves, it makes more sense that their WC3 reaction was just one of surprise and not the norm for them.
Iâm a bit unsure how this relates to the Void Elves being exiled. The Void has no precedent in Sinâdorei society or culture to be widely used the way they were studying it. So itâs a bit different then when the Highborne were exiled for doing what they had always done which is using arcane.
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oh i dunno about that. arcane magics had caused a catastrophe that destroyed highborne civilization. ignoring that would be sorta like if lorâthemar was dumb and let alleria hang out at the sunwell again, after seeing how dangerous void magic was. i mean, right away some void lords try to come thru. similar situation to the arcane well of eternity, right away legion start trying to come thru.
took awhile for night elves to recover from that and they outlawed its use in their lands, same as lorâthemar did with void, because the stuff proved to be too dangerous.
There might be similarities sure. But the Highborne being exiled for the practice they had done for ages, rings differently then the Void Elves who started practicing Void like yesterday were told to stop and they did it anyways.
The Highborne being stubborn clinging to their ways is logical, and I feel if they were practicing it safely was unfair to exile them but they ended up being better off for it. We now have Quelâthalas.
On the other hand the Void Elves are recent so them ignoring being told to stop I have less pity for, and because of that I feel the situations are different.
Happy to see this page back up again. I will always show my continued support for high elves in the Alliance!
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yes, yes it does. afterall, it still took them quite awhile to generate enough arcane so the legion could use the portal. and with void, it was near instant. holy and void somehow, open a portal when in proximity to each other, which is weird since their opposites on the magic table. but the premise is otherwise identical. danger is the problem, not xenophobia.
if my race wasnt identified with void magics, the night elves wouldnt be worried about my race at all, cause theyâve even embraced arcane again. in fact, if anything, the night elves should be demanding our exile, as theres alot more unwanted holy plus void portal possibilities on the alliance than on the horde. so far, tyrande hasnt asked for us to be moved off planet haha.
I donât think Tyrande had a choice in the matter, the Void Elves just sort of happened and then were in Alliance.
Itâs a stark difference to what she viewed as a threat in the Sinâdorei and actively knew about them and conspired against their homeland to undoubtedly keep them out of the Alliance.
I think the VEs just got lucky avoiding Tyrandes attention and then it was quickly moved to other things like the fourth war.
retconned. like i said, the night elves and blood elves were allies because they had more in common than any of the other races. they were both interested in druidism and of the same family tree. they even had a world tree right in quelâthalas.
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