High Elf Customization Thread (Legacy of the Quel'Dorei)

I wouldn’t mind them only barely being involved but I do think they should show up.

Partially so Shandris can show off leading them and partially so they can repair some of the bad blood more.

This I do want to see.

That’s a huge read into it that isn’t functionally canon in any way though.

That’s what I mean, we don’t need to make up stuff.

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it isnt made up. if they hadnt forgiven each other, theres no other way to establish trust. they still werent targeted to be horde then, but once they were, then the shared moonwells became non-cannon

Do you mean black blood?

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That makes no sense.

The lore for them to make up wouldn’t exist until the books were written. It has nothing to do with the Horde.

Also just to be sure; you’re not referring to the ttrpg right? I only ask cause I don’t really remember any lore about sharing moonwells but the ttrpg often had odd stuff like that. The ttrpg of course was decanonized before it’s release because they veered too much from the lore in the viewpoint of the devs at the time.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Moonwell#In_the_RPG

“This section contains information from the Warcraft RPG which is considered non-canon.”

Yeah so that was never a real thing. The ttrpg was decanonized before it’s release because they didn’t stick to Blizzards lore.

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so the moonwell doesnt radiate but the sunwell does? this is the point for why being with the night elves, establishes magic withdrawal relief for blood elves. we just dont know the range. the sunwell is universal and potentally interdimensional. moonwell local?

No, I’m saying the idea that the night elves did anything with their moonwells to help the Blood Elves is not canon.

It’s not a thing.

The idea that moonwells radiate magic isn’t debatable. They do.

This hasn’t happened though. So it’s not useful for claiming the night elves and blood elves were ever allies.

We do know that moonwells are local as well as being relatively minor magical wells. We also know they’re blessed by Elune.

well they forned a team with them, and this allowed them to have moonwell access

But that was a game mechanic of WCIII not a canon concept. The night elves never provided any moonwells for the blood elves to use.

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All the Human Male Paladins will be piling in to find Elven wives :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

if they didnt like or trust them and in fact were trying to hurt then, why would they allow them moonwell access?

I didn’t say they were trying to hurt them…

And I pointed out the distrust wasn’t fully written until later when the war of the ancients books were published.

I’m saying this was not a formal alliance as well as pointing out that the night elves weren’t Alliance at this point either.

They didn’t… Your buildings in WCIII are not canon. That’s a game mechanic not a lore one.

The blood elves being not Alliance was telegraphed for years. It wasn’t a big surprise to anyone paying attention. The Horde thing was more surprising but made sense the way Blizzard ended up doing it. They’re (at the start of TBC) more allied to the Forsaken, a group who had been hurt just as much by the Scourge and had common issues with the Alliance in the present day. They also saw the Horde as a good ally to get to Outland to find their king.

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This section contains information from the [Warcraft RPG] which is considered [non-canon].

Also wowpedia was abandoned. Stop using it. Use https://warcraft.wiki.gg/

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i feel like this is a semantics dance - doesnt matter if the moonwell is a mechanic, the result is the same - satiation for those capable of absorbing it. helfs in alliance lands didnt follow kael’thas.

The renaming didnt happen until after WC3 RoC. When they did in TFT, they were Blood Elf alliance troops

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Priest_(Warcraft_III)

Your argument is invalid.

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my observation is that until they were officially declared a playable horde race, it couldve gone either way

Thats… not even remotely what this is.

You’re claiming they were allied to the Night elves and used moonwells to satiate their need for mana.

The Lore does not have them allied beyond a short bit where they help each other and does not include them satiating themselves with moonwells.

This is not semantics. Nothing about what happened indicates an alliance that would lead them to be Alliance down the line. The Night Elves weren’t even Alliance at this time.

It would have been a very odd choice for them to return to the Alliance. They had several reasons and story hook pushing them away which is why they were not Alliance to begin with in WoW’s start and we only have a few scant groups that notably weren’t super thrilled with the Blood Elves in their lore back then either.

And again none of this is to fly in the face of the High Elf requests. That Blizzard dangled them in front of us for years from at least Wrath on (but also during Vanilla) makes the desire for them valid enough.

Its just there is literally no reason to be making things up about the High Elves or the Blood Elves to try to make that case. We have plenty of actual lore that defines those requests already.

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it would happen automatically, if the moonwell radiates the loality

Can’t do anything if they’re nonexistent.