Just leaves the door open for more ARs in the future, if you wanna take anything out of it.
“Open as they ever were”, is the point.
Just with pandas now and not having to be tied down to the active story.
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So, the pandas being used changed nothing and that’s significant for some reason?
So if they don’t give them next month even though its the forsaken and worgens turn then you leave?
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No, I’d give it a little longer than that. Even though there is no source stating that each base race gets a “turn” at having an allied race, it seems the most likely path for already-planned development. After the initial run of allied races is complete, though, my hope is that Blizzard indicates either High Elf customization for Void Elves or removes the faction barrier so that I can play a Blood Elf in the faction they’re supposed to be part of.
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There is quite a bit of transference on your part. You complain to be misunderstood, but you did not at all deny any of my statements.
Clearly, lore does not matter to you, and your insistence to drive an emotional aspect is indicative of your inability to discuss this topic for any length of time. For such a small topic, you are being unusually aggressive over my pointing out a simple fact.
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I’m not pro high elf but I have no issue with high elf skins for void elves so long as they have to maintain at least one void feature.
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Hardly the case, noone can make you do anything, but one should not expect others to nod their head in agreement with you either.
They reembraced it before the Nightborne was introduced, several expansions earlier actually. Which makes this an established theme of the Night Elves.
Also, they’re so important that Blizzard showcased them in the BFA cinematic.
Leave alone the fact that they’re the only mages that we saw in the whole cinematic!
Quote me where I said that Horde should not receive an elf counterpart added alongside High Elves.
Also, quote me where I said that High Elves would fix the cities imbalance.
Regardless of High Elves, the fact remains that both Night Elves and Void Elves ACTUAL PLAYABLE RACES deserve a home.
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I am not going to come off of it, lore moving forward would be developed by moving their story forward.
F.E. If the SC and Vereesa pledge to gather the remaining High elves to help the alliance track down Sylvanas. Show how the remaining groups genuinely fear for their lives (Sylvanas serving death) as they are in splintered groups and stronger together. Still could show their displeasure with the horde, so they join the alliance (their hero Alleria is an alliance member.) Before you say it, I know that is currently fanfic… but it would be development, which the Antis have asked for.
Alamara is just one person, once again you cannot apply one person to the whole group.
When you try and compare everyone to children, you are already losing your argument. Makes you seem genuinely outraged at our request. Doesn’t really reflect well on yourself.
how much evidence can you provide that this has not changed? as recently as legion the High elves were urging caution with the nightelves to not trust the blood elves…
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I don’t think that’d be the optimal solution, but it’s the solution that makes the most sense from a development standpoint right now. Void Elves having skin color and hair color options (as well as a couple hairstyles without widow’s peaks and tentacles) that allow them to look like their own racial leader while gaining the void form thing in-combat would be easy and actually make tons of players happy. If Void Elves are the compromise that everyone claims they represent, then these handful of aesthetic options are the least Blizzard could do to actually compromise.
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honestly though it wouldn’t be a solution at all. IF anything it would probably get them even worse backlash. They messed up with void elves and there is nothing they can do to fix that except make high elves an allied race.
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Void elves have telogrus rift, though i will admit, I have been busy leveling so I havent bothered looking into it.
Furthermore, if high elves became a thing, that means night elves for the Horde which is simply impossible.
If you did sanlayn, then the alliance make it out with 2 versions of the hordes most popular race.
Your suggestion that it might fix the city balance is implied by making high elves playable on the alliance. That they would get a home, even though the lore is not there for it.
As for the highborne thing, as a whole the night elves gave it up, with a minority continuing it then eventually melding into the rest of night elf society.
The nightborne give the continuation of the theme as the focus for the race, where the night elves dont focus on the asoect much if at all.
Yeah, malfurion and tyrande came from it, but do not practice it either.
@ Elyssaria: Yeah, dont try the whole “you look outraged” while blatantly ignoring with whom I was discussing. Just looks biased as usual.
Alamara is one person, but it is a good example thag the helfer community is only united in the goal, and not in how it is reaches.
If one person only cares about being pale, it hurts those who care about lore. Firthermore, I dont agree with the expansion proposed in the fanfic. Simply because if the high elves fear sylvanas, why not reunite with their people who have turned away from her?
Furthermore, that rather proves it in itself. Isle of thinder the alliance and horde were both fighting lei shen, and they also fought each other on the side.
This does not occur in Legion, and there has been no fighting since MoP.
The SC may not trust the blood elves, but that does not speak for high elves as a whole. Even then vereesa wants their redemption not their death.
You are an excellent gaslighter i must say. You are trying to get me to argue a position that i don’t have an argument with. You don’t get to tell anyone what their argument position is.
I dislike Blizz’s laziness on lore and i want playable alliance high elves. You can argue one of those points with me but they don’t go together in this conversation. If we got high elves due to Blizzard’s lore laziness then i would celebrate getting the high elves and complain about the writing laziness as i would complain about any other crappy writing on their part.
I also like playing the “last word” game now that youve gone to that level so let’s dance brah.
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That isnt what gas lighting means. I simply pointed out the inconsistency of your argument and your response was “You dont understand.”.
I do, your argument is emotional. You dont care about the lore, you care about the goal.
If bad lore gave you high elves good.
If good lore gave you high elves, good, because the lore never mattered.
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It isn’t a transaction, so it wouldn’t mean that the Horde gets anything in return other than an allied race. Did the Alliance get something specific in return for Vulpera? No. They just got diapergnomes. But nobody would actually care that Night Elves got a Horde copy, anyway, even though it’d make the least amount of sense for any race ever.
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You literally read one sentence of my response, haha. I get that you have a big shiny argument that you are proud of but it’s just not fitting this situation. Ive stated my position three times, im not doing it again. I can tell that you don’t regulate emotions well and you get extremely frustrated when having a discussion with someone that does not agree with you. I’m sure this isn’t the first time you’ve done this.
I really think that you need some time to collect your thoughts and try again. Arguments don’t need to be nasty, amd truth be told you are more likely to get someone to see your point when you keep things civil. You might even change someone’s mind.
A wise person once said “you get more bees with honey”.
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Turn? Are we in middle school?
There’s no law stating every race needs a duplicate first, and seeing as how they continue to handle Alliance ARs, I’m not excited for purple Worgen Night elves.
I also don’t even remotely expect High Elves to be announced at Blizzcon, as I can see Blizz most likely has had ARs planned up till at least past Vulpera and Diaper Gnomes, before even starting to consider forum requests.
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Plus, her kids already lost their dad at Theramore. I think that family has suffered enough.
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Maybe a mana-decontaminated and rebuilt Theramore could be a racial center for a High Elf nation in exile.
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Or a piece of Lordaeron. Hell, if there’s a quest they could take part in cleaning up the blight
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