High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

I think it’s a unique opportunity, even more so than with pandaren, to make the faction war more of a faction war and not a race war.

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if a political opinion was enough, you wouldnt have gotten a high elf variant with void elves

So, which one is it?

You can’t simultaneously proclaim that it is definitive that all High Elves joined the Horde, while conceding that there are High Elves that didn’t (no matter how many, or how few). :man_shrugging:

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Agreed!
I will admit that one of my growing concerns is the continual racial divide, as regards this game. I know others are, or are beginning to be, uncomfortable with it.
We can only carry the ‘its only a game’ so far.
Many of us, in real life, have had our families, friends, and even countries torn apart by racial strife.

In this game we have seen the Horde AND Alliance can work together. Doesn’t mean we have to love each other or anything like that; it does mean the factions can maybe quit being such jerks about it?

Saurfang took a step: Anduin met him halfway.
Jaina helped rescue Baine: she and Thrall…talked. A little.
Is that how it starts?
Blizzard?
Hello?

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i never said all high elves joined the horde. but the vast vast majority(by heaps and mounds) did. that a few individuals didnt is irrelevant. blood elves are high elves, and so high elves are playable

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But we don’t play ‘heaps and mounds’; we play individuals. Remarkable, heroic individuals, chosen and trained to help protect the others who cannot defend themselves.
Heroes come in many forms: ‘heaps and mounds’ are not one of them.

so we are the borg?

i’m a crack squad member. my team is worse than undead cause we can’t come tap more belfs to join us, we’ve been kicked outta silvermoon. we have no way to recruit new people. and lightforged draenei have like 10 or so on the vindicaar. where’re they supposed to get new people. at least there’s more non belf high elves in the game and enough time to have new generations (since its a constant thing. they didnt just wait till they left silvermoon to have kids. they’d leave silvermoon with their kids in tow)

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We are the Alliance!
You will be assimilated!
Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own!
Resistance is futile!

–to hear some people tell it.

The size of any group of people isn’t at all related to how relevant they are – that isn’t how relevancy works.

This completely ignores the nuance of sub-factionalism, but I’ll bite.

By this very same understanding of things, the Void Elves were merely the introduction of a unique flavoring of High Elves (which is exactly how Ion himself described them). Thus, it’s factually accurate to say that Blizzard is willing to implement unique flavorings of High Elves – which certainly qualifies the Alliance-aligned High Elves.

In the same way that the people(s) of Stormwind, Gilneas, Kul Tiras, and Lordaeron are “unique flavorings of Humans”, the people(s) of Dalaran, Quel’thalas, and Telogrus Rift are “unique flavorings of Thalassians”.

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The high elf megathread, keeping the dream alive.

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I do have to say, I’m actually kind of impressed that Blizzard stuck to their guns on this for 14 years.

I suspect that Metzen and the other writers on the team were never really happy with High Elves; they were kinda same-y and generic in WC2, then were fed to the Scourge in WC3 once they had a more interesting version of the “elf” archetype in the Night Elves. Then once they had the idea for Blood Elves, they had something more interesting on their hands and rolled them back into things.

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blood elves are high elves. they are THE high elves of WoW. subsequently, the high elf race is already playable and is available on the horde. they are a core horde race. these are FACTS

blizzard have stated this and have reemphasized on many occasions that blood elves are the legacy of the high elves. blizzard have said no to playable high elves on the alliance because theyre already playable on the horde and “giving that race to the alliance would blur the lines between the factions”

the thalassian elves not bound up with blood elves or void elves live in dalaran which is neutral and not a part of the alliance. only a few individuals are a part of the alliance. they cannot be considered a part of the identity of the alliance no more then the ethereal portalkeepers they share space with in the alliance portal room

the SC betrayed their people to side with humans because they disagreed with the political choices their people made. this conflict was resolved with the restoration of the sunwell. now they are just exile refugees in dalaran, and it is dalaran they put first, which is also i must say again is neutral and not part of the alliance, as evidenced by their absence from the faction war

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Yet the SC’s first appearance is after the events of the sunwell.
How is that susbstancial evidence that they are neutral? The hozen may as well be neutral now, the kurenei broken may as well be neutral, the jinyu also may as well be neutral.
The focus is just not on dalaran this expac… and blizz is going to have to involve and finish the wind runner sisters story. The silver covenant may show its self again.

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which was a bad choice considering the destruction of teldrassil. why would they logically go neutral? it makes no sense. whoever decided anyone should be neutral in the face of genocide, is missing a few cans in their 6 pack.

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The Sunwell is irrelevant.
Dalaran is irrelevant.
Resistance is futile.
you will be assimilated.
We are the High Elf collective.
Creepy choral music starts playing

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What should the Alliance high elf capital be? A new location? Maybe one of the high elf lodges? Maybe stick a high elf city in the southern reaches of the Ghostlands?

A heritage armor storyline could be really cool as well. Maybe something revolving around the Farstriders. Also maybe having some acknowledgment of the fracturing of the Quel’dorei.

People have suggested a new part in Stormwind, akin to what the park was in classic.

My favorite is expanding and redecorating the crap out of the Quel’Danil lodge.

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theyre neutral because they are a part of the kirin tor of dalaran, not the kirin tor of the alliance

yes, this implies they were neutral this whole time. it took the sunreavers forming a relationship with the horde and getting them invited to dalaran for vereesa to get a few like minded elves to form the SC who saw this new relationship as a betrayal by their kin

There is speculation of a zone north of hearthglen that could have them.

Hinterlands would be a good zone too.

Dalaran is not out of the question.

I could see them posted in kalimdor to aid the night elves with restoration of the Kaldorei lands-( my personal preference :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:)

Heritage armor quest would probably be acknowledging their past, reuniting the remaining high elves, and moving forward in the war effort with the alliance, maybe visiting the past in arathi and their fight alongside trollbane/ stromgarde against the Amani.

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There is that deserted spot on the map, just southwest of the western part of the Ghostlands.
There are also several other uninhabited places around the maps of the Old World.
Hey, my title IS ‘explorer’; I know this stuffs!

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