High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

[Galilee-barthilas]

You’re right, it’s too bad high elves are already a Horde race, eh?

[Avarie-farstriders]

Well then it’s a good thing we aren’t asking for blood elves.

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

This is becoming a cyclical argument.
here, let me make it simple for you.
if high elves are a different race? Why are they affected by the sunwell? .

I am not going piece by piece refuting your argument again only for you to flat out ignore it.

Because they share an origin.

That doesn’t mean they aren’t different.

Good, good, you’re following.
San’layn would therefore, not be considered thalassian elves.
Just like how DK races are DK’s first and their race second.
Same for demon hunters.

That is literally opposite to what I said, you need to reread it.

The isle of quel’dalar is a part of silver moon, and in order to get to it, you must go through silver moon. It is a part of silver moon. Or are the islands in seattle not part of that city despite being addressed as “seattle”.

And you don’t have to go through silvermoon because it has a harbor.

You saying they are traveling through Silvermoon to get there is headcanon.

So why didn’t Arthas simply take a boat? I mean, you’re trying to make arguments up at this point.

Because he marched his army through hundreds of miles of dry land before he got to that point and had the power to freeze a path to there.

That’s one silly question.

nothing has been stated that their pilgrimages have stopped.

They just aren’t there anymore.

They still allow them to go to silver moon sooo

Headcanon.

We’ve seen in 8.2 they still have a deep hatred of them.

Void elves. Who have been exiled purely because of that corrupting ability and not because they dislike them. It was only after they participated in the battle of Lordaeron that they were considered traitors.

And any of the visiting elves could be one of them.

You mean, blood elves would suspect the alliance and Auric of tampering with a blade that injured the current Regent lord and rejected him despite him ruling the blood elf people? A blade that is sacred to the blood elf people?
Did you forget that the guards were also commanded to return to their post because the sunwell is always being guarded?
The high elf pilgrim’s were not accosted in the least.
So that is dishonest of you to claim.

All I said is it shows they where treated like crap. It’s shown they where.

You are claiming the blood elves are different races from high elves. So we need to analyze them and determine what they are.

No I’m not. I’m saying they are a different types.

That’s all Allied Races are, different varieties of the same thing.

Orcs without Fel Taint are not a new/separate race.

Blood Elves dipped in Void are not a new/separate race.

Tauren with a Blessing are not a new/separate race.

Draenei with light infused are not new/separate race.

You totally missed my arguments.

Blood Elves and High Elves are not interchangeable. They have major differences that make them desirable to play.

The fact you are accusing me of intellectual dishonesty with an unsubstantiated claim of not caring about blood elf lore; even though the argument is how blood elves and hig

You say this but at the same time you amount to everything the Blood Elves have done/experienced to nothing/meaningless to try and paint them more similar to High Elves.

A lot of the anti crowd do this because all they care about is “Pretty Elf”.

Blood elves and High elves are the same race known as Thalassian elves.

That’s a term that was invented in these threads. They are simply known as High Elves and Blood Elves.

We use Thalassian Elf to clarify similar origin. It’s not an ingame termanology.

If they weren’t, the sunwell would not affect them both the same way.

This doesn’t matter. And we know their relation to it is different.

They would not have the same appearances as each other.

They don’t. Just similar.

They will look more different once they get a unique player model.

The same capabilities.

Same capabilities as Humans too. That’s not defining.

All blood elves/high elves who are adults are from the same generation because the schism occurred 30 years ago; and that is being loose with when it exactly occurred; and they live for thousands of years. The only one’s who have matured to adults in this time are half elves like Arator. Even then, if we accept the existence of 30 year old blood/high elves, they are all still affected by the sunwell.

Doesn’t matter at all.

[Oreahna-moon-guard]

I’m gonna let this here.

Candace Thomas

[Bourbonboxer-lightbringer (Bourbonboxer)]

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Daed meem.

Well I enjoyed the Purge of Dalaran and Genn getting back at Sylvanas in Stormheim, I suppose. But Anduin will probably be begging for forgiveness for these horrible crimes later this expansion.

Both characters involved in these have done character 180s already for no reason otehr than to further paint “Horde bad” while sacrificing established story.

Good, good, you’re following.
San’layn would therefore, not be considered thalassian elves.
Just like how DK races are DK’s first and their race second.
Same for demon hunters.

None of this makes sense in what Drede talks about.

And you don’t have to go through silvermoon because it has a harbor.

You saying they are traveling through Silvermoon to get there is headcanon.

I wonder if her means Quel’thalas and is using Silvermoon interchangeably.

They just aren’t there anymore.

Thats not a reason. Let us remember when we argued the politics of Silvermoon and you told me because there was no updates it had to still be a thing…remember?

Its a two-way road.

We’ve seen in 8.2 they still have a deep hatred of them.

We’ve only seen the Silver Covenant since dominant High Elf appearances since Cata. So we cannot fully claim this either, because there were high elf pilgrims who actively went with Auric.

It’s shown they where.

Very debatable. Especially when most are Alliance.

We use Thalassian Elf to clarify similar origin. It’s not an ingame termanology.

Its the language, which is why all three of the Silvermoon elves fit in it. Its a language group; not a culture group.

And we know their relation to it is different.

Which isnt much, because the plotline was dropped and never mentioned again…like the mana addictions.

[Avarie-farstriders]

Oh yay! This one is back now! Thank you to the mods!

[Aredamis-stormrage]

I am totally for playable alliance high elf waifus!

[Softsong-aggramar (Softsong)]

I’m gonna let this here.

Personal twitter account; my opinions are my own.

[Alamara-goldrinn (Alamara)]

High elf thread is like the Terminator. It’ll always be back.

Onwards to victory, quel’dorei!

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

Should I even bother to post my list?

I’m pretty sure everyone’s seen the current one as the constant locking keeps me from updating it.

[Tirisgarde-nemesis]

The Quel’dorei prevails

[Avarie-farstriders]

Well this time we have a lot more posts to get through before it gets locked permanently!

[Mowachassa-dalaran (Mowachassa)]

May we not waste them with naysayers.

[Mowachassa-dalaran (Mowachassa)]

I much rather see the thread with like 10-20 per day but with just ideas, brainstorming, art and new people giving support than 1000 posts per day but all of that just being a endless back and forth between both sides.

By the way, awesome that this continuation thread is on again! The GD is safe once again.

[Avarie-farstriders]

I agree, it’s pointless going in the same circles and I’d rather stay positive.

[Aredamis-stormrage]

if any nay-sayers come to disrupt us, simply ignore them. cooler heads prevail.

[Avarie-farstriders]

I’ve been somewhat swamped with homework, but I may be able to make more progress on my high elf drawing tonight.

[Prétre-sargeras]

They might get to us quickly but atleast they get to us. Shout out to the mods!