recommended addon to know when my mage is using combust/druid using convoke/etc… to time my PI’s? just going by character animations at this point and +10s…S gets cluttered real quick. something to track their CD timers maybe?
thank you so much!
Most healing addons like Vuhdo and Healbot allow you to track buffs.
OmniCD is a good ally cooldown tracker for pvp/pve. It lights up when they are using it or it’s active and it shows you how long they have left on their cooldown. It even calculates the cooldown reduction stuff for combustion.
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You don’t want to PI a Druid for convoke. Haste doesn’t affect it
If you raid at all ERT has that built in function. also like enlighten said dont pi a convoke you pi celestial alignment.
Omni CD is good. You can see when a mage combusts. The problem is you have to watch it. You can also use a weakaura called Power Infusion /w. That weakaura is simply the best, but it requires the person you are going to PI to make a macro. The macro is like this:
/whisper Fourleaf-Medivh PI me
And then the person has to keybind it. Also note that it has to be PI caps, me lower case.
What it does is alert you when the person wants the PI. And it puts a big icon for you right smack in the middle of your screen if you like. Then you don’t have to constantly watch people’s CDs–which is nice. I mean you are already watching health bars, and what you have to dodge for etc. So it is really nice.
I also recommend with this set up that you yourself make a second marco that you keybind or whatever.
It is like this:
/cast [@Fiery] Power Infusion
I personally usually set up that macro with your fire mage (here named “Fiery”), and also someone else (only your main one for the PI me though). In my case I run the Twins Lego, so that if I need the PI myself, I can cast it when I like but also get the guy not combusting–ideally anyone that would benefit the most from the haste buff at a random time.
In a nutshell: Google wago Power Infusion /w Trigger. That weakaura is hands down the best way to do it. A bit of work though.
this seems like alot of work, if you have to rewrite the macro every time if you’re pugging. and if you’re in a setting where you can /cast @{named player) wouldn’t you just be in disc together and they can use their voice?
idk dude seems like youre trying to reinvent the wheel. for something thats like really easy to do.
I am glad you stopped using the pentient one that leggo is pretty aweful
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It is a lot of work, but to be honest, you can set up your own macro really easily. You just have to bring up the character menu, and if you look at the bottom there is a place you can copy a name. Do it enough and it takes about ten seconds.
As for others in pugs, in 15s and 16s a lot actually will do it. You just whisper your best candidate and say something like, if it’s no bother and you want PI when it’s best for you please make this macro: /w Fourleaf-Medivh PI me. I have five reasonably well geared 60 Disc priests now and don’t usually ask people anymore unless it looks like it would make a difference. However, when I was getting my KSMs starting a couple months back I typically asked people to make the macro and a lot were actually into it and loved getting the PIs when they wanted it, and even said so after the run. A lot would say stuff like, “Cool bro. That is excellent.” And a few liked it so much they had to add me to their friends lists.
Actually though, I no longer bother much as 15s and 16s are now typically easy and the ones that were doing the 15s and 16s a couple months back were typically more into it than now. The guys getting their KSMs now seem to be less keen–which makes sense. I’d imagine very early on, the best players doing the really hard keys would have loved it. And to be honest I got that weakaura directly from Moadmoad.
As for Twins vs the Penitent One, the guides early on were telling people that in non- organized groups the Penitent One was better. I still have my boots and when they proc’d the boost to Penance made it a really strong heal used offensively or defensively, and the proc rate was really good, to be honest. Also, with Twins, when you have a fire mage in the group, a lot of fire mages combust at times you wouldn’t expect, and hence if you don’t use that weakaura above, then you can easily miss a lot of them–even if you run OmniCD.
Up to you if you want to use it or not. But in my case, on one of my toons this week, we missed timing a 16 by a few seconds. And to be honest, I was kicking myself I had not asked someone in that pug to coordinate with me–as it very likely would have made a difference.
Realistically, Penitent is worse than every other leggo Disc has available to it in M+.
TPO is only good at one thing, and that’s single target burst healing.
If you’re looking for damage, Crystalline Reflection is better (and does comparable healing). If you’re looking for passive healing increases, Cauterizing shadows is better and Kiss of Death even post-nerf is also better.
Twins is our best legendary because it’s the most flexible one we have. But I wouldn’t really call it necessary for anyone that isn’t in a very high push group.
TPO is only really gonna see use in raid once Disc can equip 2 leggos. And that’s mostly because twins is a little awkward in raid for them since they don’t really need the PI when the DPS does.
even when we can use 2 leggos there’s bound to be something better. Pentient is super trash
Well, I went by the guides. Also, you can literally see when the proc is up and you dont have to cast penance right away. And with my main, I have typically been flasked and had max sockets and have even used the penance conduit, I think for an extra bolt. But if you already have atonement on your tank, the defensive heal is incredibly potent and can very quickly raise up their health from low to high–and I would say under the right conditions it is a super potent heal. The problem is it is not reliable. By that, I mean, it is not always up when you need it.
Well, I dunno. The guide writers seemed to be really keen on it. I have only used that Lego, plus Twins and the raiding one. Hence, I cannot judge. I do know though, that, like I say, when the proc is up it is “kick something.”
Also, the way I have my UI set up, I can see when the proc is up–and I think it is up for ten or more seconds. Maybe others who have used it don’t have their UI set up the same way.
I think I agree but I’m not sure.
Mostly I don’t think any of Disc’s legendaries are good for how they raid heal besides TPO and Clarity.
Twins is OK, but like, you don’t need the PI, and the only time you WOULD need it is a ramp spot. But the chances your ramp lines up with a DPS CD is unlikely outside maybe the first.
So that basically leaves Caut shadows. And that healing is just completely unpredictable.
Yeah I don’t blame you. I was and still am just very confused why the guides ever thought TPO would be good. The only reasoning I could see is if in raid you needed it to hit SS cap. But SS cap was not difficult to reach at all, and it still didn’t really hold a candle to CoM there. Anywhere else just mathing out the 60% proc rate (and it started at 50% lol) you can find out that its healing is actually very bad if you don’t use that penance defensively.
so my thought process is that around the time we can use a second leggo we’ll either
A: have a busted one
B: we’ll default to SW:D one just cuz it makes us healers with an execute phase because its reliable.
The guide writers were taking shots in the Dark when they initially wrote what leggo you should get first. im glad i waited to craft my CoM before making a diff one than getting Twins for M+ or id just be out soul ash.
Someone should really make a thread about Disc Legendaries. Really, you only have so much Soul Ash. Because of grievous I made Flash Concentration and maxed it out, regrettably. In my case it turned out that was a waste because grievous really isn’t that bad as disc if you are geared and know what you are doing. I also made the raid one for the Spirit Shell extension–regrettably, and in all honestly I loathe raiding now that the drop rate is garbage.
at this late in the tier im not convinced soul ash is a issue unless your looking to see how many choreghasts you can skip before 9.1 pro tip you want about 9k saved up for 9.1 rank’s 5 and 6 are spendy
Yeah, I do my Torghast runs every week, so no problem there. They removed the cap, sigh, so now you have no choice, lol.
i think deaths kiss will be relevant when 2 leggos are a thing
you definatly have a choice ive skipped a few weeks
The Soul Ash cap is gone though. 
Anyhow, I do my runs every week. But I also do the Maw every day and am sitting on more than 10,000 Stygia now. This is with all of the Torghast and Maw upgrades, not to mention having a socket thingy in my bags (which you can only have one of). Oh, and all of my conduits are maxed out at 226 as well. Maybe I am just a glutton for punishment, lol.
Of course this is not on all of my 60s, nowhere even close to that.
i have 9410 soul ashe and im sockteted out with most my conduits maxed