Hey an apology

Okay I will try my best it won’t be easy though and I apologize if I slip but I’m up for that two month challenge sure

Hunny, it’s not just a challenge. I’d really like you to internalize here. I deal with guys like you in my career on the daily, I prove myself and overcome and they drop the gender stereotyping.

I think you need to look at history as a whole, and see what women have had to overcome, not just in gaming. I;m not trying to lecture you here, and yes there are some bad apples out there, had one in a guild recently who would cry to get her way, not saying it doesn’t happen, just it’s not the norm.

edit: I shouldn’t have to prove myself is all that I am saying. If we are truly to see ourselves as equals, we deserve the same amount of respect that you give men.

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Why don’t you just report those sexist men to your supervisor?

In the more offensive cases where I have been groped I have, but there is a point that you report too much and get the chicken little label. I am aware that I am a woman entering a male dominated world, and because people like you exist I have to prove myself worthy. You know what though? I am now managing a lot of the good ole boys club. I have solved issues in less time than they have and earned their respect. You have to know what battles are worth waging.

To me this forum is one I will fight, it’s simple as that.

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I wouldnt apologize. People on the forums get upset just because they can. Sadly its part of the epidemic of stupidity these days.

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Cool. Feel better?

Epidemic of stupidity huh? Great character name for you. You know when someone demonizes an entire race, or proactively belittles a gender, or sexual orientation do you really think they add anything of value to any discussion?

Maybe you do, but that does tell me a lot about you as a whole.

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Hey look! Theres one of those people right here! Gets offended over someone stating a fact. Anyhow, moving on now, enjoy your day being part of that epidemic.

Hey look someone came into a thread, posted literally nothing of value then carries on the cycle. Happy gaming!

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Yep, toodles!

I don’t think there is much you can. If you are sincere, then you’ve dug such a hole for yourself, you might as well be in China.

This whole thread is like a textbook example of what goes wrong when you feed the trolls. :no_mouth:

Nah this whole thread happened because someone got called out on poor behavior, and decided to make a blanket thread apologizing instead of owning up to their mistakes. Sadly a few jumped on board without knowing why the thread existed in the first place, can’t blame them though when only one side is represented at all.

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Wish I could give this more than one like.

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I thought apologizing was owning up for the mistake.

A blanket apology and not grasping why you upset people makes it moot.

Oh that’s fair, but I do know why now and the specific issue it was that was upsetting people now.

Yep, I know you are going to try to work on it. But you have to admit your original post is a vague to say the least. I really do hope to see you grow as a person Elae, I’ve said as much. But show it through your actions, and start really thinking about what you are putting out there before you hit that post/reply button.

Oh thank you that was a very nice thing to say

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I am interested in how it should have gone.

Since you are the most vocal, I suppose I am interested in your vision of how it should have gone but anyone can speak up certainly. It is a forum.

Should they have listed out those times when they had been problematic and itemized their apology?

Is there any configuration of apologetica that might have sufficed, any path to correctness at all?

Is such a thing, in your eyes, even possible?

EDIT: I have to add that you and the OP seem to be getting along now so perhaps possibility is in the journey if not in the moment.

It’s how I was raised. I don’t think you are a terrible person, if I somehow made you think that I am sorry. I just hope you can understand how some of the ideas you put out there can be damaging to progress as a whole.

You’ve told me you will try to do better, I hope you will, and will continue to tell you if you go to far.