Heroic Raiding is more casual friendly than LFR

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If you’re in LFR, why aren’t you doing normal/Heroic progression?

With a guild, they will help you gear to be in the raid team in addition to teaching you every fight, without the random player environment.

Yeah I know, raid times, big deal. You’ll clear Normal and Heroic faster than you’ll ever clear an LFR run. If you can make time for LFR, you can make time for Normal because it’s even faster.

Isn’t being faster more friendly towards everyone?

Just wanted to throw that out there for people who have anxiety about guild raiding, it isn’t hard! It’s basically the same thing with better people.

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People confuse being casual with being inefficient with your time. I’d argue there person only spending 2 hours a week doing normal or heroic is more casual than the person doing LFR for 6 as well.

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Yeah, no. If something comes up, I can’t drop in the middle of the raid without letting anyone down. I would have to show up on set days at set times. Would have to worry about gems and enchants and performing adequately. No thanks. There’s a reason many of us stopped doing that years ago.

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While I agree that running Normal/Heroic raids with a guild is a much better use of your time than LFR, not every guild has a raid group…and not every guild that does have one is all that willing to bring new members into those runs.

Finally, not every player is willing to hop from guild to guild to get into raids. I’m in mine for the RP and community.

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Problem is I can’t stick to raid times. I can’t stick to a guild schedule because my job doesn’t allow me to.

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Expectations are a bad thing?

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Not what I said at all.

I’m not interested in playing that way.

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Plenty of people in my guild drop for reasons they need (guild leader just this weekend dropped to go help out an IRL friend). I can go down the list of several other people that are even taking a break right after going the entire expansion and several years of continuous WoW play.

Heroic guilds are not like mythic guilds where skipping a guild event is being AWOL from work. Clear the tier early enough, and that allows people to get the gear upgrades they need to then carry others in normal/heroic alt runs. And if there aren’t enough people then we can split into 2 m+ groups, to blast keys for raid time.

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That’s fair enough. The way you phrased it, it seemed like playing adequately was a pain.

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While I think Keyturn is correct in that a guild Normal Nya’lotha clear would be faster than LFR, I see your points here. With a guild there’s also the matter of making sure your role isn’t already “taken” and you may be asked to get on voice comms.

While the above are simple for me, it’s not that simple or easy for all. I think LFR fills a good spot.

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Are we talking a guild full clear vs. all wings of LFR or just one wing?

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I use to do heroics. Several people in my guild ended up with health issues, including myself and things fell apart. Life loves curveballs. Now I’ll do a wing or two of LFR when I’m feeling good and up to it. And that’s how I choose to play.

Everyone plays different. Luckily the game has different options for raiding.

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No, even in LFR content I always make sure I know the fights and I’m doing my rotation correctly. I guess it’s just the anxiety of normal+ content where I have to constantly worry about whether or not I’m doing well enough that I’m not interested in.

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I find doing Normal PuG Raids in the Group Finder is much better than doing LFR.

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Because LFR heroes are too good to follow orders. Mechanics are also beneath them, let the group deal with them while flabberghasted by the 40k dps Ret paladin carrying the group.

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It’s not near as much pressure as people make it out to be. I’m not trying to change your mind but I do think there is a very big misconception that in a raid you MUST BE PERFECT 100% OF THE TIME OR YOU GET KICKED. I’ve been in a few raiding guilds and most are chill.

The reason I don’t raid anymore is I dislike keeping the schedule. If I could summon a bunch of guildies to raid at my whim I’d absolutely do it lol.

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This can be true sometimes in LFR but not in most cases. It’s really over-exaggerated for the most part here on the forums. Mostly by people bitter that it exists for some reason. Even though it’s completely optional. No one that hates LFR has to run it.

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In our minds it is, though. A group can tell me up and down that they don’t care how well I do and I’m still going to worry about it.

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I don’t have friends that play wow, I don’t have a guild to play with, I don’t work a consistent schedule, I hate having to deal with random pugs, I’m really not a fan of voice chat in general, I have a high chance of being interrupted with IRL aggro. Take your pick.

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It doesn’t matter to me could be easy or hard i just don’t want to deal with guild drama i didn’t enjoy people i liked being treated bad for making mistakes during raiding hard pass for me.

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