Something that’s been missing since P7 is undoubtedly fun 5-man content. In every version of WoW past and present. 5-mans are the most popular activity because it’s low time investment and many of us enjoy the intimacy of small group sizes.
This would be a small but very large win for SoD and a great way to get people that have burnt out of raiding back into the game. It’s endgame content that doesn’t demand gearscore and consumes if tuned appropriately.
What are your thoughts and ideas? What dungeons would you like to see tuned up for max level? How about the reward structures?
Perhaps gear equivalent to AQ and BWL as drops with end-dungeon bosses rewarding a special epic, but the last boss would be tuned a little higher.
We could have a separate vendor within each dungeon that sells different items such as dungeon-themed mounts, various cosmetics and toys.
I’m thinking a Heroic ZF that rewards players with a buffed Carrot on a Stick for completing the dungeon quest.
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M+ in sod would be very fun not just heroics. I would love to do sod m+ pushes.
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I’m inclined to agree, challenging 5 man content would be a ton of fun.
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I would love some sort of scaling type Vanilla dungeons, Deadmines tuned to kara level difficulty would be rad
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Hot take but M+ is the single best thing they ever added to wow.
RAID level 5 man content would be AMAZING. It is significantly more competitive because there’s only 5 people. What each person does matters 15x more than in a 40 man raid.
Since this is classic as well, it’d be extremely fun. Instead of retail where items are just flat upgrades, these 5 man mythic/heroic dungeons could be back with interesting items for pvp or even bis.
+1 to Heroics or straight up Mythic Dungeons for SOD (and Classic+)
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yea that would be very fun indeed.
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I thought this was a very popular opinion. Didn’t know people disagreed with this. Maybe it’s the classic pop that hates M+ I don’t tend to listen to classic Andys since they are objectively horrible at the game 60% of the time.
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most ppl can’t deal with 20 man SE right now. What makes people think that m+ would be a good idea lol.
Cause it’s easier to bring 5 good players together than 20.
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Imagine if ALL the raids we did on the way up like BFD/Sunken Temple etc all had a “Scale to 60 mode” for 10 YES 10 people that dropped “catch-up” gear and the FINAL boss of each one had a chance to drop a Jostled Chalice Fragment - this would mean, 1 weekly, 1 Beatrix kill, 1 of these from my idea = 1 tier piece per week. It would be huge for catching people up and or gearing alts!
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I’m fine with heroic Strath, scholo, BRD, Deadmines etc. Make them drop 5 reals and be tuned a little higher than kara.
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If they dropped just reels why would anyone do them?
Is this a reference to Karazan crypts?
I love that dungeon but it brings out the worst in people.
I actually avoid that place now due to the toxicity from other players.
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Wasn’t Karazhan Crypts released to a lot of people loving and it very quickly became one of the most hated dungeons that people did not want to keep doing?
Seems like overly challenging and frustrating 5 man content tends to be something that does not have a longevity to it.
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Heroic deadmines would be amazing.
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M+ on retail proves otherwise. Classic is just raid logs fest. People don’t want to do something for no reason. Why would anyone run Kara? It doesn’t give anything worth while.
Go play retail and stop pushing retail features onto classic. We don’t need heroics or M+.
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We already saw what happened in Wrath Classic with the Protocols. Everyone abandoned the normal Heroics and then demanded that anyone stepping into Alpha be geared from those same Heroics that weren’t being run anymore.
Then when Beta came out everyone abandoned Alpha. But, just as with Alpha, expected everyone running Betas to be geared from Alphas.
Same thing happened when Gammas came out.
The only saving grace for Gammas was that ICC5 mans were considered Gammas but not tuned to be Gammas. So everyone not in Raid gear just ran those for the weekly to get badges to get the raid gear to then run the other Gammas.
You want heroics dungeons? Fine. MAKE THEM YOURSELF!
Try running Strat in only the vendor-bought gear; it goes up to lvl 50 if I recall. No enchants on the gear. No WBs. Just what your class has, food and potions.
This misses the point of running heroic versions of the dungeons completely. We want to make use of our BIS P8 gear.
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Yeah guys let’s not add content. We should be sitting on SW/Org doing nothing. That’s what classic+ is. Adding dungeons that would act as catch up gear for newer players is a bad idea they should just not play I agree. What a great take.