Heroic dungeons only?

No mythic 0 until the 10th, the gear in heroics is no better than whats already available, were most expansions no mythic 0s until season start?

Yea not sure what is going to happen.

Getting 584 with renown and rares drop 574.

Something needs to give.

I haven’t done any dungeons today as no point when I can get higher level outdoor.

The drops from normal and heroic dungeons are pretty sad.

yeah heroic dungeons seem like they will be pointless. if you are actively doing content you should be past heroic dungeons ilvl.

mythic raids aren’t even out until the 17th, I don’t really see why they are limiting gear from mythic dungeons as its just making the week of the 10th more of a rush to get geared for casual guilds, who will struggle with normal/heroic raids in heroic dungeon gear.

Which means you either go into normal/hero raids on the 10th with no mythic dungeon gear or you don’t raid the opening days (a lot of casual guilds wont reschedule raid days). Which means the casual guilds on the 10th will have to struggle with a gear handicap as many of them aren’t going to do a world tour before raid times.

Half the mythic dungeons aren’t even going to be ran after the 17th when m+ starts , seems like an odd decision to not have the mythic dungeons on the 3rd, gives a single reset to do a world tour before the raids open up (or are mythic 0s on a daily reset?)

Zeros are on daily.

Mythic 0’s are now equal to Mythic+10

They drop normal raid ilvl loot(a lot higher then previous)

So that’s why.

Heroic Dungeons are for people who didn’t get EA and can jump into the game and be carried by the people who did get EA.

I love it.

That doesn’t explain why heroics drop worse gear than what you get from world quests/rare mobs.

Do we even know the ilvl to queue Heroics?

Also I had EA, but I hit max then just went to level something else. I haven’t done a single thing on this toon since I dinged 80. No rush to grind gear

When that was changed this season people were complaining how heroics were leagues behind mythic 0s and it offered a very steep progression curve.

It seems odd that blizz kept that distinction, and since they aren’t just going to buff heroic dungeons to lfr quality/difficulty… then limiting mythic 0s to be the same week as raids opening just makes it even tighter on people with time constraints.

Doesn’t matter, you can just buy crap trash off the AH until you get into Heroic. Thanks for the future carry guys!

Not on my dead realm. People would charge like 10k for a green. Pass.

Damn, sucks for you and your dead realm?

Between crafted gear (with the lowest enchant sigil) renown and world quests/delves you can get to 590+ avg without touching dungeons by the 10th

If you have a bunch of 70s from remix if you do the skip and go to the crafters AH they all get a quest for an enchanting mat satchel, if you do it early you can get 50 dust, all of which sell for 150-200g each, which is about enough for the mats for one crafted piece.

Big friggin whoop… make alts and get more renown that way. Just wait until the 10th and 17th. It’s not a frickin rush. People always drive me crazy with how much they think they need to conquer the entire friggin expac in 2 weeks.

Friggin friggin

Again, dead realm. I don’t touch crafted gear either lol

Its the blue crafted gear, but with the sigil it turns epic. People leveling their prof knowledge will definitely be able to make that stuff on the low pop realms.

Pre-season heroics drop Explorer.
Season 1 Heroic dungeons drop Adventurer. S1 M0 dungeons drop Veteran. Normal raid and early M+ drop Champion.

It’s mostly that pre-season gear isn’t going to be some massive advantage for pushing into S1.

They are buying 20k green weapon which can be upgraded to 580 on my realm.