Heroic Dungeon item level increasing with "Season" 1?

Is it true that the item level from Heroic Dungeons will increase from 571 to 580?

It so, why?

Heroic Dungeons are already a complete joke. What is the point of this random and arbitrary power creep? It already feels like my time is being wasted with this game. Why would I gear up now when I can just wait a week and get a free +10 item level boost for literally nothing?

It doesn’t make sense. What is the point…

Also, EIGHTY ONE Item Level increase in ONE SINGLE Raid Tier? (558 → 639) That is ABSOLUTE DERANGED LUNACY!!! We are going to need a stat squish every other raid tier that’s completely unhinged.

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Heroic difficulty in Dragonflight season 4 became old M0 difficulty and rewards. For TWW preseason, they didn’t want to do that without putting a weekly lockout on heroics, which people didn’t want.

M0 drops 593 and each difficulty drops are 13 ilvl apart, heroic is currently just 571 so that it doesn’t overshadow season 1 gear without some investment.

Because you’d still have to run the dungeons vs being ready to go from day one.

I’m pretty sure that’s the item level spread every season since at least SL.

I assure you, heroics can be easily cleared with like 520 item level. They are a complete joke, entirely cosmetic.

Which is asinine and entirely ludicrous.

its like this because atm we are pre season, they aint gonna give out season ilvl heroic dung gear before it starts obviously

Sure. But I can hop straight into raid / M0 next Tuesday instead of having to run a few dozen heroics first because I upgraded them now instead of waiting.

Then you should have no issue not running them until the ilvl increase as you mentioned lmao

this really doesn’t affect most people

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heroic seasonal dungeons are not the same as heroic dungeons, that’s why.

you have another week. in that time you could trivially be all or close to 593 with upgrades, and 580 os

It doesn’t save you anything since the power creep is just a couple upgrades of existing items.

farming BIS items requires a lot of runs.

it’s the same item dropping, just not starting at 1/9 or whatever, instead it would be 4/9.

so someone who starts farming next week has the same # of runs to BIS as someone starting last week, and someone starting last week had more time to get the BIS and mats to upgrade, basically less time pressure to ease M0.

the diff is you’d be doing 581 dungeons next tuesday where instead you could be doing M0

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What do you mean? The expansion is out and heroics are out. Why would they just randomly and arbitrarily increase the item level of loot? This whole “Season” thing has got to go…

Are they going to make heroics harder to compensate? As it stands they are already faceroll even with minimum item level gear.

It does, in fact - quite literally - affect EVERYONE who plays the game at level 80.

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I had no idea of this change and I don’t feel affected at all.

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seasonal heroics != heroics.

as explained before, there is no difference in the gear, just its power level when dropped.

its the same item just dropping higher, because someone getting a heroic item tuesday would be off by those upgrade materials.

lmao

It hasn’t happened yet :rofl:

So, there is difference in the gear.

This is all so stupid. What a terrible and pointless system.

I’m aware of that. Knowing the fact and anticipating the change still doesn’t affect me. When it’s live it won’t affect me.

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they been saying heroic is gonna be harder and there we go item lvl bump

no it doesn’t.

if you get a 571 right now after maintenance, by next tuesday you can spend a trivial amount of currency to make it 580.

you don’t “save” the currency in any meaningful manner by not upgrading heroic drops now. if you did / gear wasn’t upgradeable, then yes there would be no point.

But prior to this system there was no point in even running 1 heroic. by the time you had the ilvl for heroics out of normal gear/world quest + drops + craftables, you could just do m0. that is not the case any more.

no there isn’t, it’s the same item dropping just partially upgraded to compensate for the timing on material drops.

You’re saying “why do anything now when next week you can get the gear at 3 upgrades higher” the reason why is so that you have the items now, and upgrade them between now and next week.

the difference is needing to farm item_x at all. if you don’t have item_x, you are going to need to farm heroics next week. versus having it at 593 or more next week.

YEs that is quite evident and clear, Blizzard just loves to waste peoples time and invalidate their efforts. Doing it within a couple weeks of the expansions release is quite astonishing however. I’d be impressed if I weren’t so disgusted.

Feels like I completely wasted time by gearing up in heroics when I could have just waited and the gear would be 10 item levels higher for free.

Doesn’t make sense.

Sure are getting uppity for content that’s trivial and a complete joke, according to your own words.

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you’re misunderstanding the system if you think it’s “free 9 levels”

the currency used to make it 9 levels higher is not the gate.

How is it not free?

You do nothing other than loot the item and it is automatically 9 item levels higher.

Explain what you mean here?