Heroes of Azeroth?

I know some people gripe about our characters being the “champion” and “great hero”. But weren’t we considered heroes back in previous expansions?

I’m not a lore nut by any means, but I can only remember us being heroes in wotlk and somewhat TBC? If you could give me more examples I’d like to know.

It was WotLK that really started to emphasize our standing of Champions.

I personally wished my character was viewed as a menace and NPCs were like… “Oh… you.” lol

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It would be hilarious and… accurate… if the NPCs treated us like the murder hobos that we are lol

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I miss Nathanos. Sure he still called the pc “hero” but he let you know he didn’t mean it. Calling the local murder hobo hero has never really sat well with me. Best case scenario is that they start calling pc by their class name.

The only expansion where this didn’t seem out of place was WoD as they called us commander. The term was a literal position in society.

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This is the age of machine learning and AI wonders. Drop the commander/hero/ MAW WALKER (the worst one)/ Champion stuff and just have the NPCs say our names.

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I wish WoW had a system were your local rep determined how you were greeted.

Not faction rep, just rep for like hubs doing certain quests would alter how they looked at you, like for example you had a quest to get a rare herb for some ones sick grandma… But on the way out of town a shady vendor offers you a different reward for turning the quest into him instead and turning into him would lower your local rep. This would be a totally flavor and for funsies system maybe offering different titles etc. so alt play throughs can feel different.

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I wish they’d let us decide in the in-game settings somewhere, like what we’d prefer. I’d just like to be treated like a random traveller/adventurer.

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Say my name. Say my name.
If no one is around you
Say baby I love you

looks around See’s no one
Akston… Baby I like you okay so far.

Best I can give you Hun.

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I’d rather be a nameless soldier than a ‘hero or champion’.

Seriously, it’s cringe.

Stop calling me that.

It’s a large reason why I liked early WoW compared to today.

Nobody knew who I was… and I preferred it that way.

At the same time.

Its hard to be a no one after 20 years of constantly saving the place.

Its a tricky line to walk. Have a story where you are in the middle of it, but you are just no one.

I thought this post was about the WarcraftTCG that used to exist before hearthstone.

I think Legion handled it reasonably well.

There were ‘heroes’ but you were one of many. Or just the leader of the ‘insert class here’ which was fine.

In the grand scheme of Legion, you were basically a nameless soldier, but a hero all the same. The best of your ‘group’.

After that, when they retired class halls, BfA-onwards, it’s like the player character becomes the omni-champion or hero, like you’re the last one left lol.

“Champion” = You, pretty much always from that point lol.

I get it, but man, I feel like in other MMOs you’re still just a soldier and I miss that a lot.

Being a big part of the story has never really worked well with WoW like it does in FF14. We’ve always been “someone sent along to help” or whatevs. A random adventurer whose strength lies in numbers.

It is weird, because in WoW they treat you like you’re some god-tier character, when in reality you’d be destroyed for trying to take Nerub-ar Palace by yourself or whatever.

Yet they treat you like Sargeras himself is your footstool. Like you’ve already conquered everything the planet can throw at you (and beyond).

It’s kinda all over the place lol.

FF14 does handle it better, as you are indeed a god-tier being power-wise (Warrior of Light n’ all that) but the power is often stifled, or there’s a reason why you can’t be in godmode all the time.

Kinda like the Avatar state from Airbender, there’s nuance to how often it’s used.

WoW doesn’t have that restraint, really. You’re uber-powerful all the time, and it gets reset between expansions, without a real reason.

We’ve already killed gods, but now we need to water plant-sheep and protect them from random Nerubian bottom-dwellers and stuff like that.

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In the annals of Azeroth’s history we’re the nameless idiot that brings a round of drinks to the important people. You’ll notice the story doesn’t really center around us at all.

What, people don’t scream and run in terror when you enter a room? Weird… I usually have that effect on the locals. Except the weird ones… they like to pet the Hellhounds.