Here's a question: Mythic gear and Elite pvp gear

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Why is it that mythic gear which is the CREAM OF THE CROP for pvers who have to work hard with 20 other people to clear the content, it cost time, focus and a lot of energy to do still drops after the patch is long said and done?

Yet PVP elite gear which, also yes uses time and focus but in most cases you see people getting 2200+ raiting faster then most guilds come close to finishing a mythic raid is removed once a patch/season/exp is done?

Both are suppose to be cream of the crop experiences yet one gets fully removed with no hope or chance to ever go back to while the other can be farmed once you out level it. Doesn’t that ‘remove the value’ of mythic gear I.E its transmog value? Yet pvpers get to “hold the value” because they got a broken comp and yeeted out a bunch of people?

Just don’t seem fair, I love me some transmog, And the elite sets are pretty dope in most cases, as are Mythic sets but again, one will never return while the other I can just, buy my time for and go farm up.

Solution? If you push your rating to 2200+ or whatever you can buy the season of current elite gear, but get a token to buy one of the older sets: This can only be done once a season and you can’t just farm another one up with alts. It rewards the pvpers still but gives an option to get old Illusions/mogs hell even the mounts IF you of course have the rating to get said items. They should not be removed fully as again Mythic gear is not.

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that’s a fair question.

why are they treated differently?

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Sounds reasonable to me. It could work like the Saddles do now, where you earn the current season set and then can work towards older ones as you keep pvping.

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I highly doubt we will see any type of blue reply to this or anyone who has any type of pull reply to this.

Of course this can be “one of the triggers” they pull later for “new!” “Exciting!” content and put a system like this in to draw back older players/mog hunters. But it is a thought I have had for awhile: And don’t get me wrong I am not a super pvper, I have not pushed ratings but if I have more options I will, Maybe alot of people will.

In legion the few sets I really liked I worked to much to even try and attempt this, but I still love the legion pvp elite sets: They are still on the vendors but for what reason if you can’t get them?

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IIRC Blizzard was considering doing this at one point, but they decided not to go through with it. From what I remember there was a lot of feedback from players who wanted the old sets to remain exclusive.

Personally I could go either way, I’d like to be able to acquire the elite sets from old seasons that I didn’t play a particular class in, but I also understand the prestige argument.

I remember that as well: But again that argument seems to hold little to know value from a players stand point of from blizzards:

MYTHIC gear is suppose to also hold a prestige to it. it comes from the “HARDEST” content in the game that can take weeks for (the average/“normal”) guild to clear if they even can ever do it, But if you want an Exp a bunch of nobody’s can go in and in most cases clear it with no issue: If you wait two Exps you can solo/duo it.

these are sets that also should hold high value yet they can be gathered by anyone, a casual, someone who never raided someone who “doesn’t deserve” the prestige of wearing a mythic set, a set that on the back of people who pushed countless hours into is now a joke (content and difficultly wise ) And don’t take my quote of ‘doesn’t deserve’ out of context: If you play the game and pay your sub you should have access to ANYTHING and EVERYTHING: but a hard core raider might look at you and go “no you do not”

PVP is always the same: Get an over tuned over damaging or over healing class, go in, wreck everything and everyone while its early, get your gear/elite set never touch it again (in most cases) Yet there sets hold "prestige " It just seems, unfair and a bit of a broken system.

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You’re right, Mythic gear should be removed after AotC too.

I suspect the only reason it isn’t is because updating loot tables would be more work than it’s worth.

I too am not a fan of players being able to tmog into mythic raid gear while not being allowed to tmog elite PvP gear. The standard should be the same for both. Pick one

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Maybe I opened a can of worms: A can no one might ever see (no one important at least from blizzard) and while I am in no way saying “REMOVE MYTHIC TRANSMOG!” because I mean, yes I go and farm it as well…Another part of me is saying what’s fair is fair.

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good question…

I always wanted to get the pvp elite pandaria set for DKs, I never saw 1 single DK using it. Why was it removed while I can go into the Mythic raid and get the Mythic set?

that is a great question…

I don’t think these contents should be removed after a patch or a expansion, because it brings another problem: after several expansions you may end up never seeing some sets again because the players who conquered them simply disappear because they stop playing or change class.

And a new player, or a returning player, pays for an entire expansion and won’t have access to everything he paid for.

“oh but seasonal content should be locked up anyway because I want to be the only one to have the set because I have to show how badass I am” :face_vomiting:

…this type of player will change class soon, or stop playing or will never play in those old sets again…

I understand that rare and legendary items must exist, but if no one else uses it because it’s locked, the only place for us to see it is on sites like wowHead…

And this is ridiculous.

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Pvp players have always been treated as third rated players , be glad you are allowed a reskin otherwise they would give you a Toy that you can’t use in instances like bgs and Arenas :stuck_out_tongue:

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Ehhh really? Third rated? I think PVERS get a harsher or as hard treatment if you don’t raid you die if you can’t learn you die if you can’t work around hours of raiding you die.

I am. REMOVE MYTHIC TRANSMOG!
(I don’t even Mythic raid, what’s fair is fair and I’m not giving up my Elite sets)

lol no. PvP’rs having to raid to get gear for 2 XPacs is fine apparently but the moment PvE’rs started doing arena, who’s gear got nerfed and now has to have 2 ilvls? or how about leveling? compare BG XP to dungeon XP

I could go on but I should get back to work lol

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Mythic raids didn’t exist when pvp elite sets came out

Pvp elite sets were always advertised to be limited time per season

Most players don’t pvp, its wrong to give a pvp achievement to someone who doesn’t care about pvp

If they made mythic transmog time limited all the heroic and normal casual raiders that are not good enough to ever get mythic raid prog would cry out, and there are way more people who care about pve than pvp

Personally i’d love if they removed mythic transmogs after a tier just to watch all the non mythic raiders cry that they need to spend a few millions on a mythic carry

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I’d like to earn old elite sets in PVP. Unless you want to let me use my old elite ratings work cross-class.

Why are Gladiator Mounts incredibly hard to hard and KSM ones are basically free?

Same idea, different content handles different rewards differently.

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The PVE players who are playing for rewards have already left the game. Mythic raids now require a lot of time/dedication and practically give you nothing. A “cutting edge” achievement text. The loot is irrelevant as it falls behind or just slightly better than vault loot. Everything else can be farmed later or boosted.

PvP players never got screwed. The titles, the mounts, and the mogs were kept as something worth getting. So they stayed, they didn’t leave the game.

Blizzard is simply servicing its current player base, not the players who left.

Nah elite sets should never have been cross class. Completely different getting 2k on a f tier spec one season compared to facerolling as s tier

Bfa and sl elite sets are an aberration

I’m just saying if I’ve got elite sets on other classes and wouldn’t mind getting those elite sets on another class. Especially if this conversation is about allowing the old elite sets to be earned via grinding wins above a certain rating.

Which should never happen and will never happen except as a last resort to retain subs

Rbg convoke boomies backpedaling to 2400 earning cataclysmic elite sets? Actually vomit worthy

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