I look at other BM hunters, in the warcraft logs they have something called “stag” and it has a lot of DPS attached.
My logs, nothing. I have pets (I use cat/dragonhawk) - but my dps is so much lower and I don’t know where this damage from “stag” comes from.
Please help
ETA: It looks like damage isn’t showing up from things like Beastial Wrath even tho I use it on CD and such
Don’t know about the rest, but Beastial Wrath doesn’t have damage of its own, it just increases the damage other pet abilities do.
Are you comparing yourself against hunters that are geared the same as you?
It does. It says in the text it “sends your pet into a rage dealing 139,077 damage instantly”
And yes. From a hunter in my own raid team. So tonight we did Heroic. We’re both BM. If you click and look at their damage #2 damage came from “stag” which merges damage from things like beastial wrath, stomp and other pet abilities. Yet my log shows NOTHING like that.
OK, sure, but that’s trivial compared to the damage boost to other effects. I tend to forget about it. ETA: I’ll also bet it doesn’t register that damage if your pet isn’t attacking a target at the time, which is what seems to be happening.
I looked at what you’re talking about and it really looks like your pet isn’t actually participating in the combat except when you send it in for a Kill Command.
I know how I can get that to happen with my pet. Let me log and and play around to get some details to share.
Edit: I can sort of make something similar happen if I’m having my pet move a mob. If I send the pet in to attack, and then put the pet on “Follow” so it comes back to me, kiting the mob, then until I do a PetAttack again, the pet will do Kill Command on demand, but then immediately come running back to me. But even then, at least in Details! logs, I still show some melee, bite, stomp, beast cleave, kill cleave, etc. damage.
But that goes away in the next encounter. I suppose you could go a whole boss fight not noticing, but doubtful that could happen multiple fights. Even if you keep your pet on passive, it will commit to the fight the very first time you Kill Command. You have to explicitly put it on follow, I think, after the fight starts.
It’s very strange. I’m sorry I’m not more help, but what you’re seeing is definitely unusual and the way your fellow hunter’s logs look is more the usual thing you should expect. “Stag” is just one of his pet names.
Do you also run Details!? Can you look back in your Details! logs for those fights and see what it says your pets were doing?
Thanks for trying.
So I made sure my pet is on “assist” always ready to attack
I see my pet go in
And I even see #'s on my screen when it does stomp which happens if I barb shot yet the stomp damage is part of the pet damage I don’t see in the logs at all
I wanted to main this character for season 2 so I need to figure it out.
I don’t run addons myself so I don’t have a DPS meter, I always just rely on the logs after raid.
I was casting the entire fight. Kill command on CD, keeping my dire beast active, cobra shot if I don’t have a kill command, kill shot if I get a proc/use… it’s all the lack of pet damage and abilities hurting me, and I need to figure it out.
I’d suggest compromising your no addons stance and getting a damage meter, probably Details!, at least temporarily in case it helps you figure this thing out.
Actually post the log
Nevermind, I found the log, your gear, talents, and rotation are all bad. The other hunter is 17 ilvs higher with the correct talents, actually did the opener correctly. You’re wearing zero embellishments, no gems, you don’t have the cyrce ring, using an insanely janky build that looks like you guess, running both bloodshed and call of the wild as well as aoe talents on a single target boss. Didn’t even use your candle stick trinket till 2:07 into the fight. No battle potions, using the wrong phial. You’re lack of preparation alone puts you way behind the other hunter. And he’s not even that geared. I suggest you start reading the class guides from icy-veins and study your proper talents and rotation.
Holy cow, I actually simmed your crazy builds, it’s a 400,000 dps loss using your talents in single target. You straight up gutted your damage using that https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uf4ZpJGJxoCchiBNmKmWxx
Yeah just checked logs also.
Rule of raiding
#1 come to raid prepared. (Enchants/gems/talents/rotation/flask/food/pots)
#2 know the fights. If you look at most players pharse they all start off lower and get better week by week. Understanding where to stand and when to move is huge. Movement kills dps stop moving.
#3 A . B . C. = Always be casting. Go look at the logs and look at your cast per minute verse other hunters its 1/4th. So untill you press your keys faster you will always be a 4th of the dps of others.
#4 use tools. Wow or better yet retail wow is designed around addons and weak auras. Not using sims or sites like wowanalyzer. com/ are just going to hurt you. Also having good UI design and begin able to (hear/see) mechanics before they happen is huge. This off loads so much mental strain during stessful environments. Imagine managing Boss timers, mechanics orders/CDs, rotation, and raid frames alll through base ui thats awful.
Most players stay in the kiddy pool when it comes to wow. The players that think 4-6 keys are a challenge or wipe in LFR. When you can bring a ret paly in with 2 healing citirnes and solo lfr as ret.
Just need start using the tool out there and if your guild is unable to help i highly recommend just starr reading wowhead hunter guides and icy viens watch youtube videos. More information the better. Understand how spells work with our spells.
None of that analysis explains why there’s no pet damage except Kill Command.
ETA: Looking at it again, it looks like, maybe, all your pet damage is getting classified under Call of the Wild? But that doesn’t really make sense.
Thank you for the honesty. I know the fights but I have done the raid on healers(Druid, Shaman, Priest) - I never ever DPS. I just leveled this character and found it to be fun
I don’t have the siren isle ring because I am not stepping foot on that isle, boycotting content I hate (quests/rares)
I do have enchants, but I don’t have crafted gear because I don’t make gold in WoW so I am broke and I ain’t gonna buy a WoW token just to get gear that will be replaced
Not saying I need/want to be #1, I just want to get over tanks and be somewhat “viable”
I did change my specs, typically I make a mix build with some AOE and never touch talents again lol.
I also don’t use addons
But I was always casting
Well lack of wanting to get gear, especially the cyrce ring which a massive massive DPS gain just hurts you in the end.
Just going off the ring alone, compared to your heroic ringworm ring, a 658 cyrce ring is about 76,000 dps gain, probably even more for you with your gear. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8yHUp2txXEdSKfyhFMsJKu only take like maybe 1.5 hours to follow a guide and max the ring to max ilv
first thing ANY hunter should do…
MACRO PET ATTACKS TO ALL OF YOUR ABILITES.
seriously, take your normal rotation and write a macro for every ability.
then add below that ability a pet attack macro.
similar to this.
#showtooltip Explosive Shot
/cast Explosive Shot
/petattack
/cast Claw(Basic Attack)
/cast Bite(Basic Attack)
/cast Smack(Basic Attack)
make a new one for EVERY single ability on your bar that will attack an enemy. your pets will attack your target( allowing you to tab target and control pets easily).
also very important because the way pets attack is wonky, this forces them to use their abilities . if you doubt it, feel free to test on a target dummy do 2-3 mins worth of rotation without the macros, then do 2-3 mins with them. you will see a difference.
Eh, the difference of using macros or not is insanely small for pet attacks, it’s like less than 0.8% DPS and you won’t feel anything. She doesn’t even use details meters so for sure won’t feel anything. They should start with the basics of learning rotation and correct talents before min maxing
Careful because I was already told you don’t need addons to parse a 100. Nevermind this is common knowledge and it’s mysteriously uncommon when I profess it.
This is an issue with Warcraft logs and how it combined pets with the same name into cotw. Nothing you can do about it. But nothing you actually think about either
Just wanted to say thank you everyone. I got my DPS a lot better this week. Even better when I look at parse for ilvl vs over all. Some talent changes really helped 
TalentCraft.