Help, please

For nearly 4 full weeks, I have flailed and struggled to optimize my DPS for the sake of my friends while we run Mythic+. I know that Necrolord’s isn’t an ideal choice of a covenant for PvE and I know I’m not a very seasoned player, all things considered, but I’ve been trying my damndest to make it work and it’s simply never good enough.

As a subtlety rogue player, I am reaching out and pleading for any sort of assistance. For starters, please tell me what’s wrong with my rotation (and I’ll include my talents above the rotation).

15: Premeditation
25: Shadow Focus
30: Deeper Strategem
35: Soothing Darkness
40: Prey on the Weak
45: Enveloping Shadows
50: Secret Technique

Now, for the rotation:

Start in Stealth
Shadowstrike
Bone Spike (Coven Ability)
Shadow Blades + Shadow Dance + Symbols of Death
Shadowstrike
Shadowstrike
Rupture
Shadowstrike
Shadowstrike
Slice & Dice (since this is nearly the 10 second mark from the initial premeditation s&d)
Shadowstrike
Shadowstrike
Eviscerate

Repeat the eviscerate cycle while maintaining slice & dice and rupture on target. Use Shuriken Storm when adds are involved to eviscerate. Pop Vanish for additional Shadowstrike, and pop CD’s when available.

What am I doing wrong? I can never compete in DPS and tanks almost always out DPS me. I’m… frustrated and very close to giving up on the class.

Is this single target for bosses or trash?

Are you using the emeni soulbind?

So your first major mistake I see is that you ignore rupture until after mma expires.

What am I doing wrong? I can never compete in DPS and tanks almost always out DPS me. I’m… frustrated and very close to giving up on the class.

im just following the guide. So here are some places where you can find help.

  1. Rogues Discord: https://discord.gg/ravenholdt
    Go to Subtetly and there you can ask any question or see the pinned posts.

  2. Sub Rogue Ravenhold website:
    https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/subtlety-rogue-guide/

  3. Sub Rogue Wowhead Guide:
    https://www.wowhead.com/subtlety-rogue-guide

  4. Icy Veins Guide:
    https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/subtlety-rogue-pve-dps-guide

(2) is where i’ve learned my rotation!
Go to " Mythic+ / Cleave:"

I would do something like:

Single:
Sealth
SS
Rupture
Symbol
Dance
Covenant
SS
ST
SS
SS
Evis
SS
SS
Evi…

AOE with 100% Crit:
Shuriken
Symbols
Dance
ST
Shuriken
BP
Shuriken
BP
… (Refreshing Dance)

Your rotations are way off for two reasons.

1: OP is running MMA so you ignore rupture till after the first dance.

2: OP is necrolord so you bonespike before shadow dance 100% of the time.

3: in Add burst you use ST first then BP.

St should be
SS
SBS
dance/symbols
Ss
ST if talented if not Evis
Ss
Ss
Evis

Aoe is
Ss
Sstorm
St
Dance/symbols
Sstorm
Bp