Help MISTWEAVER!

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Posted a thread on Reddit and decided to link it here as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/l7qo83/before_anymore_nerfs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Before anymore nerfs or posts about nerfs can we all collectively agree that mistweavers need substantial buffs? There are 3 areas that make monk the worst healer atm. Outside of “there will always be a worst”. This is true, but this isn’t what I’m talking about. Technically we could talk about cc…but these 3 are the most important.

  1. Self defense
  2. Teammate defense
  3. Mana efficiency*

*easiest to change immediately

Mistweaver have absolutely nothing to use while stunned and their defensives are abysmal comparatively. Take a look at what other healers get:

Priest: pain suppression - 3 minute(40% reduction) usable while stunned. Can be used on self OR ally.

Druid: barkskin 1 minute (20% reduction) usable while stunned.

Paladin: divine protection 1minute (20%) usable while stunned.

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Monk: fortifying brew 3minutes (15% reduction and max health) can’t be used while stunned. Dampen harm or dampen magic. Can’t have both.

Harm: 2 minutes. 20-50% depending on the hit. Can’t be used while stunned.

Magic(probably the best option): 2 minutes 60% against magic. Can’t be used while stunned.

That’s just self defense. Monks are severely lacking in defense for their teammates as well.

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Life cocoon is merely a speed bump for dps. 20k absorb is 2-3 abilities. 2minute cooldown versus something like rapture shields that are spammable.

PLEASE READ

+Vivify is the main heal you use and it costs 2,050 mana. Enveloping costs 3,000. Renewing is their hot and its 1,100. You renew multiple targets so you can vivify and get cleave healing.

+Yu’lon is a 3minute cooldown that heals target and 2 more allies for 2400 over 4.5 seconds IF they have enveloping mist on them. So you have to spend 2500 mana to activate yulon. Then 9k to put 3 enveloping mists up just to get 2500 healing over 4.5 seconds. 11.5k mana for a 3minute defensive cooldown that’s supposed to help with cleave damage.

+Would LOVE for this thread to explode because honestly the class needs a rework but most of us that play just want mana efficiency buffs immediately.

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would kill for a mw/dh buff, my two favourite classes unplayable rn, preach for us friend,

adding something to substitute for the removal of memory of lucid dreams would be the best option.

lowering cd on life cocoon ,adding bursting life effect and buffing damage absorb to make up for lack of azerite also,

every other class had azerite traits baked into toolkit, mw did not

could use another cd or two yulon is such a waste of mana…

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Nobody like DH but MW needs buffs for sure.

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fixed that for u bud

ps: also buff mw

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Just buff something would prefer arms/ww/boom/ret and fire mages.

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I play all 3 of these specs. DK, DH and MW. My emotions are in the crapper right now. Only way it could get worse is if i played a warlock too…

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imagine being the martial arts class and not having at least this down. gg blizzard.

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if they buff mw rn when mastery goes up with ilvl mw will be way overpowered

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Give MW karma???

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i mean thats not a terrible idea

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Unfortunately, they’re not gonna do huge changes while an expansion is up and running, even less if its only targeted for pvp lmao.

All they’re gonna do is reduce mana cost and increase healing that’s it

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I think we should be nerfed even more, we clearly haven’t paid enough for our past sins like sub minute cocoon

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Lets be honest tho, that was pure cancer lol.

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Yeah it was, but holy are we paying for it lmao

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It was honestly worse than the hpal meta we’re seeing rn.

If anything, if they get hpal somewhat in line then we can see a better picture of what the others might need. And lol, remember when everyone was scared sham was the best healer in the game? lol.

I want to see MW/rdruid get more play tho, for sure.

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That’s debatable, i think the only reason it’s worse is not because of mw specifically, correct me if i’m wrong but it only really rose to prominence in s4 with corruption where the name of the game was go into as much dampening as possible and having a sub 1 min to stop go’s was strong. I feel like if they had sub 1 min cocoon in this meta it wouldn’t be as obnoxious as it was then.

But for sure would like to see more mw/rdru as well

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My buddy plays mw monk, he tried going ww and we’ve had some success with it but he doesn’t like it very much. Mw 2s feels like pushing boulders up hill.

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If he hasn’t already there’s a good mw in 2s called Mysticall if he wants to check him out, venthyr mw who is like 2.3k in 2s i think, good tips.

edit: not 2.7

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I think he has. And obviously the other half of that is me but I don’t think frost dk/mw pairs up as well as unholy would. We’re having more success with his 170 hpal than we did with his 204 mw.

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All the ppl talkin’ ‘bout MWs in BFA s4. Apparently nobody remembers Ineff hPallys w back-to-back bubbles. Guess that was fine by comparison w MWs.