Considering rolling a prot pally. The wife has a monk healer (i assumed it would be the simplest for her) and i orginally have a DH, but that didn’t work. So i rolled a monk tank, and it flusters her. I figured with the heals/bubbles/support a prot pally can offer, maybe it would make healing on her a little easier? Should i try like war? Or should I have had her roll a different healer? I’m down to play most tanks, and can pretty well. She is a bit newer (mains only hunter lol) so idk if maybe monk heals was the wrong choice. Any input appreciated!
i don’t really know healers that well but it sounds like if she’s new to healing you might consider a tank that has good self reliance like a BDK or prot pally. something with good oh crap moment tools to save a death.
BDK has great self heals in dungeons and prot pally can spec for better heals and support. also don’t forget LoH is off the global if you have good reaction time. prot pally also has aoe bubble taunt which is great if you are pushing 10+ and higher to make sure you have threat on everything so she’s not freaking out so much with threat everywhere. BDK also has great control with grip and mass grip.
what kind of content are you guys trying to run together?
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At this point she boosted her healer, and has an okay rotation, just gets really flustered healing. I’ve always mained healing, but a bit of tanking here and there, have every, or most classes to max. Trying to give her tips just confuses her and makes her not want to play (i promise she does like it lol, just stresses her). So at this point just the grind from 110 to 120 doing only dungeons, and then lfr and maybe mythic+.
May be too late at this point but Druid healing is way smoother IMO to learn. Set and forget. Have you tried the monk forums? I’m not very familiar with mist weaving, but when I started healing semi recently I was terrible till I went Druid and learned better to not hesitate to use CDs. And I Second the BDK. My wife tanks and I heal. She mains blood dk and a lot of the time I never have to worry about her. We mostly do 5mans as well
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I have never healed for serious but I know a good UI can make a huge difference I just don’t know what to suggest for healing. It seems like all my guild healers use elv UI or whatever it is called but I don’t know why it is good. I think it shows dispellable debuffs a little cleaner which can be important for healing. the default UI isn’t great for that.
If she just wants the default UI enabling class color coding options is really great so that pallys show up pink in raid frames DK’s red etc. for LFR. that changed my world when I swapped to class color frames for pvp and good for LFR as well. I just don’t know the best way to show important debuffs to dispell but I think DBM will tell you if there’s a target that needs a dispell if she’s willing to use that addon. I know as ret if the healer dispell is on CD it will tell me to dispell poison/diseases on teammates.
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Been playing holy pally since the BC days. Healing can be stressfull, comes with the territory. But shes just beginning, takes a while to get your legs under you and trust yourself. Practice makes perfect. No clue about playing monk though so cant help there.
For your choice in a tank class… i would either go pally or war. Both will serve you well.
So when do the kids start playing dps?
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Prot pally pumps for dungeons. You have the options of offensive or defensive builds. With a defensive build prot pally can have insane self and group healing, making them self reliant and also taking pressure off the healer.
I would say that prot warrior pumps out more damage than a prot pally thanks to avatar, and does have more mobility.
BDK really struggles with some affixes and has a different sort of utility from prot pally - it also has a battle res.
MWer is a good healer, and shines in both raid and m+. It can take a bit of getting used to, but probably has one of the easiest times with both group and single target healing. It also brings great utility to dungeons with an aoe stun and ring of peace. If she wants something that is easy and OP for dungeons, resto druid would be the way to go. HOWEVER, resto is more of a pro-active than reactive healer. Monk has some proactive aspects to it but is easier in that regard.
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Since she already boosted it may be too late but I will upvote for Priest healer for her here. Holy Priest is very easy with a tool for just about everything, and Disc if she ever wants a challenge though holy will always do just fine, (unless you two are wishing to eventually be Method-level raiders or trying to do 20+ keys that is).
If she’s staying Monk thats not too bad, its different - but very strong in both small and large group settings but she may have to practice a bit as its not like most healers, refer her to online guides too! Also I can’t stress enough that healing 110-120 (and early 120) is AWFUL. It takes so much more resources to heal even a small amount of health then as the game is much more tuned to 120 levels. If its too stressful have her dps up to 120 first.
For tank, Monk Tank is great but takes a bit to come online since you need higher gear. I will say Prot Pally is amazing! While prot warr is the “best” tank at the moment, in a casual level I would argue prot pally is as it is much better at fixing your own mistakes and mistakes done by your team with their amazing cooldowns.
**TLDR **
You should Prot Pally tank,
She should play Holy Priest (or practice Monk; guaranteed is MUCH stronger with gear)
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I have all the healers, and I don’t think she’s gonna find an easier one than monk. Druid and Holy priest are at about the same level of simplicity, but not easier.
My biggest tip would be some form of mouseover healing. Some way that she can simply mouseover a friendly and cast a heal without also having to set it as a target. Most people use mouseover macros for this. You can use the addon Clique to set mouseover heals to mouse buttons, or VuhDo has mouseover functionality built in to its raid frames (like a combination of ElvUI and Clique). I personally use VuhDo - it’s specifically built for healers and has a ton of customizability, though that can make it rather complex to change off the default settings.
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Warrior is easier
Plus you do a ton of dmg
Also I used the ingame shiz for healing I just use raid frames to make people’s names bigger and click got gladiator last season and delved into some mythic uldir also heal my m+ like this and it’s pretty easy
Idk man have you tried not shoehorning her into something like she’s a child and let her play whatever role and class that she might like?
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Hence the reason she is just playing her Hunter, and carrying me to 120 now lol.
I agree with Mavo. Holy priest for her and prot pally for you.
Ide have to agree with an above poster with how easy Druid healing is. Set and forget is so true. If she easily gets flustered then the ReM+Vivify healing pattern may increase that once you guys go a little higher in keys (once geared and 120). Also Druid Tranq is increased by 100% power in dungeons where as monks Revival isn’t.
A Prot Pally is good for any new healer. Keep a healing addon going for yourself and also get Hand of the Protector talent and you can “help” out with heals and Cleanse/Purify. For Azerite Traits, as many Bulwark of Light and a Soaring Shield help you out a lot. Since I pug, I build towards defensive, so I make sure I have enough Crit to be at 20% Parry and have about 13% Versatility. Jes’ Howler in Tol Dagor is a good Versatility trinket as it give you and your party Versatility.
After your wife has gotten used to healing, you can build your Pally out for higher DPS, but building defensively at first is always good to start.
If her issue is getting stressed, then have her roll a dps class. Tank and heals are by far the most stressful roles.
She does main DPS, she was just looking to branch out, and have more than 1 character haha. She loved her mist monk from level 1 to about 55 ish. So she decided she’d boost it. Since then, its just been to much. I also considered the druid aspect. I showed her mine, and the thought of all the different forms she thought ‘cute’, but ‘way too much going on’ kinda thing. As for holy priest… she HATES cast times, which is why I went mist monk or druid. And I know mist definitely has cast times, their just… different? More simple.
Honestly, she just needs more practice. Maybe do some lower keys where there is less pressure and she can get more used to her kit and what the ‘oh crap’ buttons are.
If she’s never healed before, it’s going to be hard for her to start no matter which class she plays.
I don’t know why so many people here are advocating holy priest for m+, because it sucks and is pretty high maintenance. Can be really hard to catch up if there’s lots of group wide damage, and when she does start to get more comfortable and pushing higher keys holy doesn’t have the kit and disc has been neutered. Priests reeeeeeeeeeeeally suck for lots of affixes, as well.
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Raid frame adding suck to set up, I use blizz default raid bars in EVERY situation. Open up the raidframe menus and check EVERY single box. Especially the one way up top so it’s raid frames even in a 2 person party . You can move them anywhere and have them horizontal even . And best part is there isn’t an add on menut to screw around with and make it complicated. After thatAdding, clique addon for mouseovers. then it’s simple