Hello Wyrmrest

People keep talking about switching from wra alliance to moon guard but if I had the time I would switch my only roleplay character on mg to wyrmrest :full_moon_with_face::new_moon_with_face:

also are people actually roleplaying like in the “hubs” anymore. Whenever I log on it’s specifically for like key logging

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I’d be lying if I said I also haven’t been lurking around. Hi Wolf!

Things have moved very quickly in my life. But it’s…stable. For the moment. Was not always sure I was gonna land on my feet. But I have. So that’s a win for the dead.

I miss roleplay in an mmo. I play ttrpgs and hell I even do some very casual rp in CK3, but mmo rp is just…idk it hits different.

I’ve tried ESO but man I hate how the characters walk. I get you can have different walks but the base one is just horrible. Chrinal Chrantasy Chortleteen just isn’t my jam. Mechanically it’s a wonderful game. I very much enjoyed tanking in it. But much like stated above the lore and RP just doesn’t interest me.

I miss…the home that WRA used to be I think. But I don’t think that exists anymore for me. Like rose tinted goggles, always chasing something that can never be again and perhaps never was in the first place. But the thought of a Cole somehow coming back and being wracked with guilt at the terrible things he’s done in Her name? I’d be lying if that didn’t sound fun.

Hope everyone here is doing well. I miss you guys.

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I honestly couldn’t tell you as so far I haven’t touched a single actual part of the game and have instead logged on purely to RP. I haven’t done it once in a city hub so far, though.

Glad to hear you’re doing well, Cole! Honestly, my biggest issues in every MMO I come across has been “is the game fun” and “does the RP exist/is it actually good?”

Both are subjective and purely up to interpretation, because I for the life of me cannot stand GW2 artistically and gameplay wise but people will spend hours trying to convince me otherwise. In turn, I adore Hilga Handasy mechanically and the story is a blast… but it leaves little if no room for actually fun RP unless you really enjoy slice of life stuff, I suppose. And now WoW sits in this weird position where I despise its gameplay style of conveyor belts and shiny doodads, and how it feels restricting in who I interact with (get rid of faction stuff mechanically at this point, Blizzard). Also the company as an entity kind of sucks. But last night was some of the most fun I’ve had in an MMO in a very long time because of the people I got to run into and RP with.

It’s frustrating for me, and the appeal of running around as Wolf here is terrifying as it was almost instinctive on how I was able to immediately figure out what he would have been doing during the entirety of Blahlands (hint: not interacting with the story) while also just naturally falling back into how I would RP him.

It’s a terrible thing, loving a character dear to your heart.

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Happy to say I’m still gay

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This is important.

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Glad to receive the updates before the newsletter.

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Why didn’t Thanos just make the universe gayer instead of wiping out half of all life? Fewer breeders = less population = more for everyone else = supposed galaxy resource shortage problem fixed and universe substantially more fabulous.

I’m Chonga and this has been my TedTalk on absolutely useless comic book movie theories.

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On the one hand, you’re correct.

On the other hand, it would mean a lot of bad movies made by a heartless, vicious corporation saying things about a deeply intimate and vital part of a human’s life and I’m not sure I’m ready for that just yet.

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three powers that more or less all get along pretty well

Look, it might not be as exciting as the faction war, but at least the Spinal Cavity 14 factions are all actively trying to save the world and will not commit genocide (except in their surprisingly dark ancient histories).

I’m actually hoping the Horde and Alliance develop the same kind of respectful rivalry going forward: fighting each other in nonfatal duels and mock battles to show off instead of comitting warcrimes on each other thatll keep the forums arguing for literal years.

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This is true, but it also leaves zero room for actual… development? In terms of story with the factions in Dibble Dancey 24, which was one of many elements that made it frustrating to get RP to exist outside of the housing/cities.

I’d be down for much more casual war games though, and not anything stupid like Trial of the Crusader but something more nuanced and less hit-over-the-head-with-a-bat tension. I know some people live for faction war stuff, but after so many years it feels so dry. There can be a happy middle ground without tilting too far to one side (extreme passive ‘everyone is friends’ wiggle wantasy vs war crimes warcraft).

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Ehhhhhh, I don’t think I’d go that far.

Gribble Grambasy’s story is, indisputably, good. Like, it is objectively good writing. And by virtue of being good, it is already many steps ahead of WoW’s story. And with that goodness comes a lot of development in terms of characters.

And I hate to say it, but…WoW has never developed. Nothing has developed in the factions, the characters, anything. Characters occasionally are given new perspectives via magical intervention, but beyond that, it’s actually backsliding. The Alliance were overall good but had authoritative instincts that went too far, now they’re just lawful good overdrive. The Horde were complicated and now they are literally stupid cartoons who can’t go ten seconds without committing genocide.

What WoW does have that FF doesn’t is intensity. But that’s seriously not always a good thing, such as when they intensely dedicate themselves to a really stupid idea.

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Hell yeah, casual wargames! Can even be to-the-death battles as long as everyone agrees ahead of time and it doesn’t involve massacre-ing civilians for cheap shock value! That might bring back the honor-horde fans!

And not just direct combat with each other but remember how the AQ40 war effort events spurred faction pride, wanting to beat the other faction by gathering the resources needed first?

Ultimately we were all fighting to save the world from the bugs, but it helped that we could flex on our rivals on the other faction while we do it!

(The recent Vinyl Melody 14 expansion reminded me of that when the Ishgardian nobleman and the Lominsan pirate kept arguing about who did the best job assembling resources to fight [spoiler])

Basically, I hope they try to embody the spirit at the start of the Wrathgate cinematic where Bolvar and Saurfang Jr. tried to one-up each other killing zombies and knocking on the Lich King’s door, all while egging each other on with friendly rivalry banter!

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See, I’d agree except there’s one giant difference: your character in Gribble Grambasy is stated as the main character first and foremost. It’s a story that cannot be shared with other people, and one that will probably get you genuine glares if you try to RP it out unless it’s with a close group of friends. In terms of story? Wonderful, loved it, way better than anything WoW will ever produce as far as I’m concerned.

But RP? It’s so incredibly stifling, I hate it’s world that feels like stage where MOST people will never ever tread because a lot of zones are just [SPOILER REDACTED] and are impossible for the normal layman to go that isn’t straight up the WoL. Could you RP and make it adventurous? Sure, but I’ve found its just not worth the effort almost every time. The pros of simply making a character that can be RP’d out in a majority of housing districts, the bajillion venues and other things to just “hang out and relax” with a slice of life RP.

And it bored me to tears.

Obviously, this is all subjective in my own opinions, but WoW’s terrible story has a freedom to it that Grimble’s doesn’t. Grimble’s story is tied neatly in a bow and deviating away from it just feels wrong, WoW’s was ambiguous on a lot of fronts and leaves so much more room for interpretation of events. Does Grimble have a background world to work with? Sure, but it’s very simple and safe, which feels perfectly good for telling a single-player story. But it leaves many characters I’ve found to be very same-y in background, which happened a lot while helping friends try to make up characters. This is basically the conclusion I’ve come to after playing Grimble since Stramblud (the rebellion one).

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Howdy Wolf! I’m still lingering around like a bad fart (You may remember me as either Avers (Alliance) or Starstalker (Horde)). Though for right now, just on the forums.

The hilarious thing about this is last week I tested positive for COVID and ALMOST resubbed just to have something to do for five days…and the prospect of questing in WoW stayed my hand completely.

I might have pulled the trigger if I didn’t know the 40-50 range would have just insta-yanked me into BfA. If I could go straight to 50 on Pandaria, etc alone I probably would have done it. But I legit only have three Level 50s and I don’t want to do BfA again.

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chromie time goes until 50

For those who have purchased Shadowlands. For those of us not interested, you get shunted into BfA when you ding 40.

Unless that has changed since I leveled Havvik.

Hello, Ocean man/ Mo (formally Zhii) here.
I came to WrA with my guild a few years ago from ED after a lot of other guilds left. Before that, I was on Ravenholdt when RPers were moving to ED. Now of days a lot of RPers are moving to MG however I am staying put this time. Firstly, since around 2014, the RP community in WoW started shrinking a bit with the decline of the player base. That said considering RPers were already the smallest category in all of the WoW player base, it makes sense that these smaller servers saw migrations to larger ones.

Now, when I first came to this server I had a rocky experience and kind of did not like it. It was MUCH bigger than it is now so naturally more RP happened however with more people, more drama and a lot of OOC fighting happened on the server and here. So much so that it was one of the reasons I unsubbed for a bit…

Then came the time when a lot of people were leaving for MG and well…a lot of the more hostile people left as well. Between this, some promises from the company, and Dragonflight I decided to come back and I am so glad I did…

WrA now is the definition of quality vs quantity.
-The interactions I have are so much fun.
-I have met so many unique and colorful characters.
-The Discord community is AMAZING with an exceptional mod team.
-My guilds both The Seventy-Third and The Voyagers I highly recommend.
-Every other guild still here is full of great people.
-Tight-knit community with plenty of cross-faction events.
-Creepy RP requests really don’t happen.
-Most important of all, almost everyone is just chill.

Now I don’t know how it is Horde side anymore with the population being bigger but I can safely say from an Alliance perspective, WrA is the place to be.

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Was banking on going back to work on Thursday, but just took an at home test that still has me COVID positive. So forgive me for doing a bit of commentary to take my mind off the irritating phone calls I have to make in regards to my workplace/leave status.

It’s definitely a weird feeling. I’ve been on WoW specifically since 2005 after I got out of college. While I really haven’t been more than a casual player since 2009, it’s been a constant companion for the better part of my adult life. Yet I’ve come to realize that at some point (Even I can’t narrow down exactly when)…I “left” WoW for the last time and never really went back.

Oh I still log in for a random month here and there, but it gets more melancholic every time. It’s like walking into a place you used to live but don’t any more. Last time I was in game, I went to Ironforge on a whim and stood out in front of the bank and was just sad for a while. Like even in a digital landscape, I could almost see the dust on everything. The NPC baker hawking his wares just made me remember accounting for NPC ambient dialogue in RP conversations. The sheer traffic of people when Lagforge was THE Alliance Capital to be in because it was centrally located to everything.

I think that’s the moment I knew that WoW (more than WRA) waasn’t the home it used to be, for me. Maybe I could try to revisit it on a WoW Classic server, but even then I’d be chasing “ghosts”.

This game provided so, so many memories. Were I in game I could take you all to the exact spot on Quel’Danas I was doing dailies when I got the phone call from my parents that my dad had been diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, for example. I can go to Northshire Abbey and remember the time I tried to get my girlfriend (now wife) into the game. I can’t really wax nostalgically about my old RP hotspots since Blizzard nuked the Park, but…you get the idea.

I think all of us old timers have that moment where we have the digital equivelent of “One day you and your friends went out to play for the last time and never realized it”. WoW definitely has that kind of energy for me now. I’m the last of my social network - both online and off - that still ventures into Azeroth.

Speaking of that…

God, how I wish I could go back to around 2007 and let my past self know that in 15 years Dragon RP wouldn’t just no longer be taboo, but the defacto storyline of WoW. My Lore Fanatical Self’s head would explode.

Thankfully, 15 years is plenty of time to have mellowed out considerably.

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Out of curiosity, where have you been finding Discord rp at anyway? I haven’t really been having much luck on my end, but then again I could be looking in all the wrong places too lol.

I don’t think there’s any one place? I mostly do it the same way I found RP before: drift idly through life in spaces where RPers are wont to hang out and then ask them individually. Terribly hard to do once you’re out of the actual game, but forums (like this one!) are good for that.

There was a Discord RP thread awhile back?