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Time and time again threads expressing their hopes for the future of Classic are met with hate and derision.

Classic+ is all but predestined. Blizzard is already investing heavily in Classic’s development and upkeep. Content that will spark new or continued interest from the player base will be a natural decision for them.

Classic’s content should uphold the ESSENTIAL CHARACTERISTCS of Vanilla WoW as described by the community.

Characteristics such as:

  • Sense of communty

  • EARNING gear/progress

  • The world feeling large with long travel times

And plenty more.

Maintaining the feel of these characteristics should be Blizzard and the community’s main goal.

However, WoW’s playerbase, and this includes Vanilla, has always thrived on the epic adventures to come. Players looked forward to every level they gained, looked forward to every new boss they could kill and the gear they could earn.

For this reason, #nochanges violates one of the essential characteristics of Vanilla: Progress.

#nochanges and Classic as a museum piece will create a game exclusively of passersby and fanatics, but not a reasonable playerbase as we had in Vanilla. A fundamental part of an MMO is feeling like your character has an endless future of progress to chip away at.

This time around, we can be sure to steer these changes in the right direction and avoid destroying the beautiful parts of Vanilla.

I realize you all are looking to stay out of a bad relationship with discretionary changes. I will be here to nurture you through it even though you call me mean names.

Which way is Retail again? I lost my compass and couldn’t use the directions the last guy gave me.

Note: My point is that #nochanges and “museum piece” cannot be the case forever. Blizzard and the community would be forgoing a beautiful thing by leaving Classic to gather dust.

There is a crossroads ahead, and once you guys realize this, you might be willing to embrace small changes that are in line with Classic that would ultimately benefit the health of the community.

Once the discussion is open, I believe TBC and other expansions would also be a mistake as they violate the characteristics of Vanilla. TBC was a decent expansion and it completely killed the “world” feel of Vanilla. Add content at 60 and Classic lives forever.

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Tldr lets just get classic first and enjoy it before asking for tbc nd wotlk

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LOL, and the fact it isn’t predestined is why I’m content for now.

Content that will spark new or continued interest from one segment of the player base while driving away another segment, possibly back to a revitalized sector of private servers who have since collected much more accurate data, will be a rough decision for them to make. Do they please one group or maintain their stated goal of Authenticity to please the other?

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Ugghh… I swear. Look, I’m all for nifty wow innovations in a few years. I fully expect atleast 3 years of nothing but classic though.

Honestly, I’d be shocked if Blizz ever releases a TBC or Classic plus.

Let’s just thank them for Classic and play the greatest mmo ever created, pre-garbage.

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Oh look it’s another thread by this guy…yippee

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In Brazil we have a name for this:

Put the cart in front of the horses.

Means that you are thinking or worry about things that are in distante future, but have a lot more need to happen before you can have certain about that.

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I’m sure that telling people their entire view point isn’t valid because you said so wont get you considered a troll but will instead have people read your post with an open mind.

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:D. My daily dose of head against wall!

I think content with a focus on keeping it Vanilla pleases both groups. Most people are merely afraid of what Blizzard would do with any new content. I think the community should be more involved this time.

I’m meaning to say we can be ahead of the curve by realizing changes will happen eventually.

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Your daily troll?

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Sorry!

If that’s how you feel about it.

Apparently trolling is anything that can be considered “upsetting” nowadays. And to think nothing has changed since Vanilla. :laughing:

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Honestly the game being set up to be a museum piece is all that really matters. Though I’d hope Blizzard would eventually make the right choice to actually put it in a musuem.

All the other stuff can be talked about, like someone else said, after the game comes out. Beyond that it’s all hypotheticals and opinions.

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Made it that far, since that’s completely and utterly untrue. In fact, the opposite is true: Blizz considers Classic a museum piece. It’ll be left untouched once the phases go through.

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This. Only a tiny percentage of players were able to clear Naxx last time around, and they had 7 months, with another 1.5 years leading up to it, so it will probably be at least 2 years before a significant percentage of the population runs out of goals. People act like everyone’s going to zerg through everything. Even with all the online knowledge at our disposal, most guilds will still have to spend months gearing at each tier before they are ready to pass the gear checks of the next tier. The math hasn’t changed.

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Can you provide a Blizzard source on that?

It can for Classic. What you’re proposing is a new game entirely.

I am not adverse to the Classic+ idea, but we have a few hurdles to get over before you can make any “predestined” claims.

  • We need to actually have Classic launch.
  • The population has to stablise after launch.
  • The population has to start growing.
  • The playerbase has to exceed Retail.
  • The players have to be unified in a desire to progress.

I get that you think Classic will meet all these things, but Blizzard has repeatedly said that they “have no plans” for any changes beyond Classic, and they don’t want to run two MMOs at once. Therefore in order to to be the preeminent, and thus favoured path, there needs to be a strong and consistent show of playerbase force.

All this talk of “inevitable” and “predestined” is like a political campaign where you think one candidate is a joke, and the other is ‘meh’ but electable, and suddenly there’s a swing and the joke wins.

Classic+ is by no means inevitable. Classic is going to prove it if we ensure that it does. All this talk of destiny and guarantees will simply make people lazy.

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It will be (hopefully) no changes until after naxx.
So around 2? years of classic.

Then they can roll around classic+, please.
Nonetheless, this is a horrible way to post this, you’re not giving information on why, you’re not trying to convince people, you’re just trying to stir up stuff.
As much as I agree and as much as I believe this is gonna happen, this is just a weak post.

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I’m merely creating a history for me to link back to them in 2 years. I know it’s hard to change the lizard brain.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/18000060722?page=1
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The game as it is should absolutely be available for as long as there are people wanting to play it. It is an important part of gaming history.

That being said, if Blizzard feels up for adding additional types of servers years down the road with extra bells & whistles, or other expansion servers, that would be fine and dandy.

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How do you figure?

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I think one of those groups has been pretty clear that new content isn’t what they want, so claiming it would please them is pretty much being unwilling to hear anything but your own voice. (Calling it hate doesn’t disguise the fact that plenty of people do not want WOW Classic to ever be anything but Authentic Vanilla.)

I also, personally, don’t have quite as much trouble with the basic idea of new content as I do with the willful blindness to what it takes to develop new content. It takes development teams who are hired (or reassigned) and have the skill and knowledge to someone come up with new ideas that fit within the original framework seamlessly - for a project that Blizzard already promised would not pull money or people away from Retail.

In fact, look what they did to HotS, moving many of the devs off, dropping eSports. They’re not looking to make huge investments in WOW Classic, and wouldn’t be unless it somehow exceeded far beyond what many imagine. The story of the golden goose is useful in that scenario, showing what happens when the greedy farmer thinks he can get more eggs and winds up with a dead goose and no more eggs.

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Add Silvermoon, the Dreani capital I can’t remember the name. Add the two races from BC but don’t add Outlands. I think this would be awesome for Classic.