For the life of me I can’t figure out why people with Lv120 toons are STILL camping Honor Hold (and presumably Thrallmar) in Hellfire Peninsula and killing quest givers and low level players. A content patch just dropped, you would think that people would be either leveling a new toon or working on unlock requirements. I’m not debating the merits of wpvp in Hellfire Peninsula (and in fact war mode makes leveling a lot more interesting and I personally always have it on) but rather I’m wondering why people waste their time sitting there at Lv120 just to get no credit or reward for ganking low level players and npcs. Seems like a waste of time. Would like to hear if anyone has a dissenting opinion more intelligent than “it’s fun to gank lowbies”
I also noted that these particular Lv120 gankers are not very good and so are probably not regular fixtures in the current content pvp scene. I got my Lv120 Boomkin to HH, paired up with a BM hunter and found a group of Horde players wrecking HH. We spanked their group of a rogue, a warrior, and a monk TWICE in rapid succession before they gave up and left. The first time was an ambush but the second time they came at us in a coordinated effort and still got obliterated. Very satisfying despite how easy it was. That was the end of the ganking, at least for a little while, I was well past HH in the hellfire questline before getting another notification of HH being under attack.
But seriously, why bother wasting time, there’s literally a thousand better things to do (like maybe figuring out how to properly PvP people at your own level). I’m not worried so much about the annoyance for seasoned players, we can always get our mains out and waste the gankers if it gets bad enough. I’m moreso concerned about new players leveling up a character for the first time and getting ganked by some loser who couldn’t take on a Lv120 guard let alone an actual player.
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Why people are trying to level in the quest layout hellscape that is hellfire is the real question
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I liked leveling there quests are quick give good exp and theres normally a decent amount of pvp.
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I’m not sure what server shard you’re in, but for me, it’s usually the Alliance ganking or camping in Thrallmar. You’re from Whisperwind so I’m assuming we’re not the same shard, but for my server it comes down to a rivalry thing.
I come out there to kill the 120s attacking the lowbies, and they come out to kill the lowbies to try to provoke us to come out. I don’t know why they kill the lowbies honestly? We’re fine with fighting anywhere else.
They’re probably there to grief people leveling the new Allied races. I usually pop into HFP every now and then to look for people doing this and clean them out.
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Yeah I would assume that this is not an issue limited to one faction or the other. TBH I think that killing the 120s attacking the low level players is a rather noble thing to do, regardless of faction.
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Variety and the challenge of it; every now and again it is fun to level a character through Hellfire Peninsula, Vashjir, and Bloodmyst Isle just to remember how not-great they were. I leveled a toon through Bloodmyst Isle not too long ago.
With proper expectations and mental preparation it was actually enjoyable. And I actually rather like Vashjir to be honest.
Granted, I enjoy reading the quest text rather than mechanically leveling a toon. The immersiveness is a major draw.
I hate to be that guy but, it’s just kind of fun. I just got to 120 for the first time a few weeks ago, and now I am just grinding to get my item level up. It’s a little more boring than straight leveling so its nice some times to just go explore and gank low levels when I see them. I do have a rule not to kill the same person more than once if I can help it. It would be annoying for someone to camp bodies all day. Also, I do suck and I am sure it shows.
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answer is very very SIMPLE. They are bored and do not have any skill whatsoever so they gank lowlevels for GIGGLES.
Which might be fun at times but if they do this 24/7 that is YIKES.
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I keep trying to figure out the coded messages you’re sending with capitalizing certain words.
I think I might be close. Is it something to do with lemurs eating spaghetti?
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You should get yourself hooked up with some pvp groups on the Group Finder. Even if you start off in a big ganking deathball raid you’ll slowly learn the ins and outs of proper PvP play and be able to do the weekly PvP quests to get some sweet gear. It’ll make your gear grinding so much faster too.
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Thanks for the info. I’ll give this a go.
It’s not worth it to war mode HFP, either turn it off for that zone or skip it entirely. For some reason all the other zones have like 1/50th the amount of gankers.
This has been a question for many years.
It boils down that it was easy to access and a LOT of people are comfortable and like to level in this zone.
Other posters have covered it but essentially a lot of people who have a hard time with PVP will come here to “win” or whatever or just because they like to have power over lower levels.
I really enjoy the PVP here outside of the one shots…
Hellfire was always a hotspot because it’s a bottleneck. With the vanilla zones, there’s usually two per level range so people can just go somewhere else to avoid you. Likewise at 68 or 70 where there’s two routes into Northrend. At 60 though, everyone went through Hellfire if they were leveling via quest.
Now that level scaling has changed that, it’s pretty much just a tradition or old habit at this point. It wouldn’t surprise me if when WoW eventually dies, that the very last person online when the servers are turned off for good is killing a flightmaster there.
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I still remember the epic battles of halaa
Who still levels in Outland when you can go straight to Northrend? Ever since the leveling changes none of my alts has stepped foot in Outland.
Outland mirrored Southshore—since its been released and still, its a great setup for wPVP. Two nearby cities as soft-sanctuaries with strong guards, whether going back and forth with 2 to 3 or 20 to 30 on each faction, it makes for great wPVP. Tol Barad’s daily area was successful for the same reason.
As an intro quest zone, it offers a level of activity–not just with the inflow of questers, but as the basic hub for those porting into Outland for any other content. With a long history, its habit–its a place that players can go and expect to find others. It is, for wPVP, similar to stepping outside of your city gates expecting to find duelers.
I don’t condone mindlessly killing players that 60 levels lower and then avoiding any max level pvp that happens—but this location has long been a provocation point that has endured expansion to expansion, and scales well to ‘teams’ of any size.
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