Theres a video on twitch showing a guild standing in a spot the whole fight and not taking eruption damage, it’s in Zone 1. Is this an exploit or clever use of game mechanics?
Edit: I cant post for some reason but check VooDooSh twitch for the video and also on Bug forums here someone posted a chinese guild doing it
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Definitely an unintended thing. Id expect Blizzard to fix it.
I hope they fix it. Heigan is not really a hard fight but it’s a pretty unique one with the dance.
Also among one of the funnest fights, getting to tease guildies who can’t dance is priceless!
Blizzard was aware of at least one possible safe spot in the original and it was considered an exploit.
Modern Blizzard seems to care a lot less about this sort of thing but if this becomes the mainstream way of doing Heigan I could see them putting their foot down.
How is it an exploit if the devs didnt map it to hit that area? It’s not like they are jumping somewhere that isn’t intended, they are just standing still on the floor.
The fact that it doesn’t hit that one very particular spot is unintended but I don’t know exactly what spot OP is referring to since it could be the original safe spot that Blizzard themselves acknowledged was an exploit or a new one entirely.
The idea that something is an exploit may seem ambiguous but it all boils down to: “a method of playing the game in a way not intended by the game developers to gain an advantage over other players.”
In this case Blizzard considered the original safe spot an exploit. Like I said before though, modern Blizzard might just see this as another case of “you think you do but you don’t.”
I don’t think it’s necessarily an exploit but it does need to be fixed.
This seems like the kind of thing that’s going to be patched out. It’s best to just learn it the proper way.
Well, exploits range from the mundane, unintended methods of playing, to malicious hacking. So, while I’ll say this is an exploit, I don’t want to put it on the same level as the layering abuse for more raid loot from phase 1, or worse exploits from the past that were literally hacks of the client.
The video of I saw of this was from a Chinese server. Bear in mind that Chinese servers are owned and operated by a different company than NA and EU so the mechanics may be different.
It’s a clever use of Game Mechanics. An exploit would be doing something to elicit this behavior.
An example would be the saronite bombs on Heroic Lich King extending the platform. Or, jumping off the edge in Mythic Star Auger to avoid the aoe damage.
Here, the players are just standing on a spot where there is no AOE. It is unintended, but they don’t have to DO anything to make it work.
VooDooSh is a streamer from EU and did it as well
The fact that they need a stupid way like this to pass an easy boss, losers lol. Takes out all the fun from the mechanics.
Yes, if I find a mistake made by game developers in their game and then abuse said mistake to avoid design intentions how am I exploiting?
You could use that logic for every cheat in the game. We found someone who exploits guys, only people that do some degen sheit talk like this.
Sounds like a trap for entrapment to me boss…
There are tons of cheese the Chinese guilds do to avoid mechanics… I doubt blizzard will do anything.
No dance safe spot heigan is only one of them. there’s also mass evade undead side gothik, LOS cheating patchwerk out of hateful strikes.
If you majored in some kind of engineering you’re familiar with builders and breakers, two sides of the problem-solving coin. The builder innovates, designs, and creates new whole things from individual parts, etc. The breaker destroys things, finds and exploits structural weakness, reverse engineers others’ developments, crack through security protocol etc.
The Chinese way of thinking is very suited toward breakers. For a structure as simple as a video game, the Chinese will break it in 15 minutes. Maintain integrity for 15 years? fuggedaboutit. It might be through the game’s economics, circumventing botting/cheating prevention systems, or things bordering clever use of game mechanics. One thing is for certain. It will eventually get broken if there’s money to be made.
Source: personal experience working overseas as an American expatriate in SE Asia, and Suzhou+Hanzhou+Shanghai China. They break things much faster, but aren’t as strong in building.
Its not a bug, its legit it’s how we did it in Vanilla, and the same in Wrath, because the mechanic was copy and pasted from Vanilla to Wrath.
Does it fall into the category or Exploit? Sure, it does, and should it be patched out? Sure.
It’s an obvious exploit.