PALADIN
Retribution
Blade of Justice damage increased by 80%. Does not apply to PvP combat.
Divine Arbiter damage increased by 50%. Does not apply to PvP combat
Final Verdict damage increased by 10%. Does not apply to PvP combat
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I didn’t expect those but I won’t complain.
BoJ by 80% what?
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Yeah, seriously. 
Looks like Blade of Vengeance is making a comeback.
And perhaps Divine Arbiter as well.
They are saying BoJ only though.
Furthermore, doesn’t it make it hit harder than final verdict? It might be a typo.
80% of 133% ap is 104% so BoJ at 237%ap…
Even with the buff FV would be 210ish%
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Geez, I didn’t even think about that.
Damn, looks like a nerf is already coming even before it gets buffed.
(One can hope, though 
)
Unlikely, bov is a different id than boj. Boj buffs don’t always translate for bov buffs
Also yes Ben, this does make boj shoot up in priority, it also makes double boj charges viable
Makes sense.
Good, BoJ always felt better with 2 charges.
I never know what these percentages really mean.
10% buff doesn’t seem like a lot for our st spender.
I think mine averages out at 1.6 million?
So now doing 1.76 million.
Still junk.
Uh dks are hitting 2.2 to almsoy 3million with their main spender, as is Enh shaman.
I mean if you don’t include any of our HP modifiers or EL we get auto casted with it every 20 secs, sure it’s not much.
Templar get’s a bigger hitting spender and herald get’s a big DoT, so yeah.
Issue is that out damage is allocated to other sources
Like our generators do a lot more damage then other specs generators
Comparing dk spenders to ours is very disgenous
Is this true? I’ve always wondered about that.
Since I don’t play any other specs, I’m no expert on other classes’ abilities. If this is the case, then yeah, it’s not fair to compare our spenders to other classes. Especially since generating HoPo is not a problem for us.
Well, considering that Final Verdict went from 161 AP to approximately 210-ish AP in just a few weeks, that’s a massive dps increase.
Combine that with the new and improved Blade of Justice*, and our single target damage should in theory be noticeably different.
*(IF it doesn’t get nerfed before coming out of the gate, although personally, I can’t see Blizzard keeping it at 80% damage increase; really hope I’m wrong on this)
ya frost dk for example has alot of its damage on obliterate back in DF unsure about rn tho
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That is correct in the case of obliterate builds. It’s mostly due to how KM turns it into frost damage though.
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So i want to ask this quiestion;
Undoubtably BoJ won’t stay at 80% increase, it is just too much, but at what point will the end increase should be to make choosing 2 charge vs 2 hp choice optional?
I am thinking the end number might be around 50% increase, but what do you guys think the end number will be if they rebalance boj?
Good question. I’ll leave it to those smarter than myself to do the math. That being said, I will never turn down a dps increase for ret.
I’d have no problem with it.
There are many elements to consider.
The previous tier set was increasing BoJ damage by 10% and it was a good thing to take 2 charges.
It just got increased by 80%…
But the tier is different, when you get a proc you abuse the spenders.
You don’t have the same GCD coverage, I wouldn’t be surprised it made a comeback as well as BoV.
It depends. I noticed for this season sacred strentgh is a strong choice with the 4 set, which helps bring down gcd a bit. But thrn again, if you use dh woth templar i would imagine you would prefer to keep using dp to keep dh up for double dipping on shake the heavens.
Sacred strength isn’t strong
Also boj 80% is staying cause it does 0 for aoe where ret shines
Keep in mind ret is nearly dead last for bosses in this raidhence why the seemingly large buffs. This is overal a 6% gain
Bov still likely dead cause it usually has to be buffed along side boj due to different spell ideas, and it’s aoe is still the same
Its co talent is also bugged to give us 5% holy dam compared to 3%
It is? 
I haven’t noticed anyone using it.