Healing Surge Change Not Implemented in PvP

[Elizaowens-stormrage]

It’s appears that the anticipated change to healing surge was not implemented today as it should have been.

Verification process: Take off all gear → take note of healing surge value → enter pvp combat → tooltip will show 12 percent less healing compared to the original value and output matches the tooltip.

(Side note: for the elemental warding change it really should have been adjusted to all damage. This is because the talent is already quite hard to take and in it’s current state will require constantly talent swapping to correctly optimize)

[anon45078670]

Wouldnt surprise me if it was intentionally left out for the healing surge buff.

[Akston-area-52]

It wasnt going to apply to PVP?

Class Tuning Incoming – December 19

After closely monitoring data on class performance as well as player feedback, we’ve developed the following adjustments to classes that are over- and under-performing in group content and PvP. These changes will go into effect with scheduled weekly maintenance in each region. Classes Demon Hunter Sigil of Flame damage reduced by 10%. Havoc Collective Anguish (talent) damage from summoned Fel Devastation reduced by 10%. Ragefire (talent) damage stored from Immolation Aura critical strikes re…

@Kaivax

Shaman

• Elemental
  • Earthquake damage increased by 50%.
• Enhancement
  • Elemental Warding now reduces magic damage taken by 3%/6% (was 2%/4%).
    • Developers’ notes: This is aimed at improving Enhancement’s survivability in all content.
• Restoration
  • Torrent now increases the initial heal of Riptide by 15%/30% (was 10%/20%). Does not apply to PvP.
  • Healing Surge healing increased by 12%. Does not apply to PvP.
  • Healing Stream Totem healing increased by 12%. Does not apply to PvP.

[Zezu-daggerspine (Zezu)]

Keep reading.

Player versus Player

Shaman

Enhancement
    Healing Surge healing is now increased by 5% in PvP combat (was reduced by 12%).
    Control of Lava (Flame Shock backlash damage) damage increased by 8%.
Elemental
    Searing Flames now has a 40% chance to generate Maelstrom in PvP combat (was 100%).
    Rolling Magma is now 60% effective in PvP combat.
    Control of Lava (Flame Shock backlash damage) damage increased by 8%.
Restoration
    Healing Tide Totem health increased by 30%.

[Zezu-daggerspine (Zezu)]

@Elizaowens-stormrage

Verification process: Take off all gear → take note of healing surge value → enter pvp combat → tooltip will show 12 percent less healing compared to the original value and output matches the tooltip.

You sure that isn’t just because healing surge is buffed in PvE more than PvP?

[Akston-area-52]

Didnt realize it was specifically for enhancement.

[Elizaowens-stormrage]

From my understanding the pvp value is in relation to the pve value. Given the change is “increased by 5 percent in pvp from x” relative to the pve base value it should be 5 percent higher.

[Zezu-daggerspine (Zezu)]

@Elizaowens-stormrage

From my understanding the pvp value is in relation to the pve value.

I thought there was a general base value and PvE and PvP could each have modifiers to the base value.

[Deeznux-frostmourne]

[quote=“Class Tuning Incoming – December 19, post:1, topic:1743142”]
ter closely monitoring data on class performance as well as player feedback, we’ve developed the following adjustments to classes that are over- and under-performing in group content and PvP. These changes will go into effect with scheduled weekly maintenance in each region. Classes Demon Hunter Sigil of Flame damage

Yeh i thought nothing had really changed tbh using it for a lot of the games this week and trying full healing talents for enhance. it felt no different.

[Zezu-daggerspine (Zezu)]

It’s only a 20% buff to a weak base. So likely not going to feel all that different even if it did go through.

Anyone recall what they were healing for before vs after?