Healing Elixir will be horrendous

Classes Monk
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Your literal next sentence is bashing people:

How foolish to act like you have some moral high ground over Nora yet you are literally doing the exact thing you are criticizing (personal attacks).

It’s this kind of behavior which makes me sick of the people who work on Peak

The majority of you have this weird elitism that is unhealthy for the spec community as a whole — just want others to copy you because “you’re the best” but you’re really not that great at theorycrafting otherwise the monk community would be more popular

The guides are objectively bad — how do I know? People don’t find success with MW so they don’t play it and we have this vicious cycle of people leaving monk to play easier classes to heal because the guide makers are so dead set on pushing these contrived builds that might be 1% better than something much more intuitive.

If peak members spent half as much time trying to make MW approachable and easily accessible as they do trying to prove they’ve min/maxed the best possible build, we might have a larger population of players

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I also think it should just be a choice node (And it should always have been on the class tree). If they are dead set on it being automatic, it should work like I seem to have remembered it working at some point (?) where it has stacks but consumes one if you drop low.

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Not sure if you are purposely miss-reading what I wrote or not, but alas. I was using a concrete example (vhalator’s comments) and now you call me an insultor for pointing one out. Ok.

Next part is gonna be me telling you that i very rarely visit Peak, I stopped during that a while ago. But as I have mentioned in other posts, It was always a pleasant time. Not sure why you are trying to reflect your own bad behaviour on Peak members.

The majority of you have this weird elitism that is unhealthy for the spec community as a whole — just want others to copy you because “you’re the best” but you’re really not that great at theorycrafting otherwise the monk community would be more popular

This whole part is not only a lie, but also insulting. Peak recommends builds listed in their guide-directory, as they are mathematically proved to be superior, but i’ve always seen encouragement for trying whatever people feel confident with.
Also the last line makes no sense at all - you blame the spec popularity on theorycrafters? what?

You trying to correlate the validity of guides by using spec popularity is nothing but gaslighthing. You have absolutely, in no way or form, any authority or data to make a correlation between those. You are literally spewing nonsense.

And again, for the last part, Peak has always (from what i’ve witnessed) encouraged people to play what they find fun, but as a class discord the pinned guides will always be what’s more optimal, as it should be.

Your entire post is you claiming your assumptions to be facts, when you have nothing but your own arrogance to provide as proof or reasoning. It’s not fitting for a civil discussion, just like Vhalator’s bullying wasn’t (or yours, for the matter)

Though I supposed i should be glad that you decided to prove my point from the previous post.

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Nora is cool and very helpful imo
But at the same time shes nothing special as far as i can tell (no offense nora)
Theyre just a normal person like you or me.
A regular wow player who is entitled to their opinions.

If you dont like what they have to say thats cool.
Just ignore them. Either literally or metaphorically. A block is an option.

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No offense taken. I’m a pretty average player, nothing spectacular. I’ll be totally honest, I have no interest in the theory crafting or the math, I play by feels. I just really enjoy MW and love talking to people about them and the different builds you can play. I don’t push one style over another, I always encourage people to play the build that will bring them the most success and/or fun.

If I came across as attacking that is never my intent. Like I said, I agree with some of the things that have been said but not all. It’s easier to throw a like out than to quote each individual piece I agree with.

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You have never been anything other than helpful and an inspiration for me so none of that is a fear for my end.

I have grown to adore all features of monk and really want to learn how to heal on it.
Ive just got to install a few addons to keep track of buffs.

And ive no doubt you will help me learn it all.
Because for the last few months while ive been debating what to do youve been patient and helpful no matter what.

Ive gone from asking from reasons why to play in early aug, to talking about utlity, to saying “this is me”

So dont ever doubt yourself here.
You are helpful and beyond

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I appreciate that.

As far as add-ons go, I mostly use plater, weakauras for better buff tracking and the standard dbm. I use the in-game party frames and click casting feature but I know a lot of healers swear by Vudu. It has a lot of extra features, I just haven’t taken the time to set it up (it can be tricky the first time).

When you decide to try your hand at healing I’m more than happy to help out anyway I can.

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Im getting a bit more comfortable with brewfest as none of them “need” healing so its a great time to experiment.

I feel as though being a former disc priest i totally picked the right healing spec. And as a holy hater, dang is the mists pretty haha

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I love love love the pale green mists. I wish they would update the spell animations to be a bit higher res. I don’t think they’ve touched them since the slight change to soothing mists animation.

I have no doubt that you will pick up the healing aspect without much issues. That said, if you go the faeline/AT route I will have to defer to others with more knowledge than myself :joy:

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So now that everyone is buddy-buddy again, can we get back to the topic and discuss Expel Harm and Healing Elixir? Lol.

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Lol. I suppose. I still haven’t had time to test them on the PTR. It’s been busy at the clinic. I think at this point I won’t actually get to experience the changes till they go live.

I like the changes to expel harm, but I still feel like we have too many talents for it clogging up the class tree. They could easily bake them together or at the very least add more connections.

As for healing elixir, it’s not a talent I actively used. Being an automatic thing maybe makes it more appealing to me. That said, a choice node is probably the best route blizz could take.

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The mists is the closest ive come to connecting with a healing power, and as a healer main of 5 years whos a now a dps main of 2 years… i want mists.

But i also want it all.
Once i can track and understand the buffs better i look forward to learning my discipline

I pray this gets reverted to 8 yards

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As a new monk healer player gearing mine up as a new main for 10.2, im glad this guy tried to trash talk you. You are clearly good at the class and I was looking for some guides.

Discovered you because of him :slight_smile:

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I’ve been messing around with MW monk on the PTR quite a bit. Done each dungeon at 20, and healed Mythic Gnarlroot during that test.

The healing Elixer change doesn’t feel bad. it actually does a fair bit of passive healing. The biggest thing here, is that Expel Harm is actually worth pressing in an emergency now. I’ve had Expel Harm crit me for a 702k heal… The only thing I wish is that EH was off the GCD. But, overall, the change has not been “horrendous.”

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And we don’t take it, thank you. Some of us enjoy having control over our abilities

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Use expel harm. Don’t know how top notch mw players did not get the idea behind the change