Healing as Holy paladin on PvP feels harder than performing advanced CPR

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I’m 31, been playing WoW since I was 17. Started healing during Cataclysm, as Holy paladin. Got in love with the class, the lore, and specially the role, but the only content that i feel challenging but still fun has always been rated pvp.

I became a physician on febraury 2020, so the joke some of my friends did during my graduation was “IRL Healer” and stuff.

Healing has become harder and harder with each expansion, but we were able to cope with that difficulty. Even now, we as holy paladins had a rough start on Dragonflight, but most of us managed to change our mindsets with avenging crusader and reckoning and we were able to compete at a good level, even with the insane level of burst.

I’m doing the Internal Medicine residence, and i’m working at a general care/intermediate care room. Tonight I was on call, we had a cardiorespiratory arrest and we performed advanced CPR maneouvers, took us 7 mins, and we were able to stabilize the patient, and “brought him back to life”. The other similar scenarios weren’t like this one and the other patients died, so this was a “joyful” moment for me, and I’ve felt like I (WE) were able to turn a situation around, and actually help our patient, even in a critical state.

I got home, logged in, and tried to heal with my 12 year old paladin, but, Since 10.0.7 hit, i feel absolutely powerless. The opposite of what i’ve felt in a real life critical healing scenario. Having to spend, YEAH SPEND my “combo points” in order to be able to turn back the tables against dpses that just use cooldowns with no build up feels like i’m chasing everyone from far behind. It’s nonsense. Not to mention that now my judgments don’t hit for nothing, i do almost 0 damage, because if I try to run in I’ll get either ccd or decimated. My casted heals (2-3 dps’s GCDs) don’t heal for even 50% the damage a singe DPS ability.

I don’t care about what Reeceboss, Brain, or whoever’s a Rank 1 paladin’s able to do with it’s class. Most of your players aren’t even near that level of skill and we can’t make WoW our way of life. We do, nonetheless, consume their content in order to try to figure out how to play.

So, summarizing my complaint. Please, return Melee wings to its former state, or make it consume no mana, plus buff up a little bit of reckoning. I think the huge majority of holy paladins feel like their class is absolutely awkward to play, really non rewarding and that with each patch/expansion we become almost an NPC.

I’ve seen this huge nerfs come and never get reverted:
** Our mana regen got a -40% decrease, unlike other healers.

  • Infusion of light was amazing during BFA, got destroyed in shadowlands and feels even worse in Dragonflight.
  • Divine favor now feels like you’re wasting a GCD, that’s even dispellable and you need to cast something else following that cd, praying you don’t get dispelled or interrupted.
  • Our biggest cooldowns (Divine shield, Blessing of Protection, Lay on Hands) can’t be used secuentially, unlike any other healer’s biggest CDs (PS, Rapture, Earthen Wall, Spirit Link, etc).
    Not to mention also our 5min defensives can get dispelled by spammable purges which are instant or nearly instant cast (MD, Shattering, purge, dispel, spellsteal, devour) and our Lay on Hands, which is a 10 min cd gets a -20, -30, -40 or -50% healing reduction with spammable mortal strike effects.

Anyways. I really hope you can adress the paladin tree, class and performance. Never felt like posting before but this has never been more frustrating.

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We’re in a very awkward spot, melee wings has been nerfed into oblivion, but we don’t really have the tools to play caster either.

but because we’re apparently “A” tier in Raids I doubt we’ll get the attention needed.

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What i forgot to mention is that ‘ve read many PvEers’ feeling the exact same awkwardness and powerlessness.

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That’s fair, I’m pretty sure most Raiders only take us for Dev Aura lol

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I wish they’d delete devotion aura so we could finally get fixed

Changing devo aura to 3% base instead of 15% / by how many players was such a lame change too

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Great post! I should have saved my details from before the change to melee wings to see how my much our WoG usage went down since the change. It’s a terrible feeling when your divine toll’s on CD and you have 0 holy power and wings is coming off CD. It makes you feel punished for using WoG. You have to stop using WoG at around 10-12 sec before melee wing’s off CD. It takes about 7-8sec(depending on crit HS w/ divine favor HL) to get 5 holy power and that’s with nobody on you. You really need to be good with your other CD’s! If you panic and use WoG in that window…you can throw the game. I’d love for them to get rid of this 5 holy power nonsense.

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Amazing summary. That’s exactly how un-intuitive the healing “rotation” feels right now. You get punished by healing, it’s insane.

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The really need to change the mastery of holy paladin. That hands down needs a huge change in order to have varying play styles.

WHy even have infusion of light be the way it is?

Vanilla Illumination was just better IMO. WHy not bring back critadin? Big crit heals non stop. Stack that with some AoE heals that we have and it would be great. Why not have have a mastery that increases haste by X% on spell or ability critical strikes?

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That’s not going to address our PvP situation.
Although Holys mastery needs a rework since BFA.

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Apologies, I don’t PvP much.

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I should make a big elaborate lie for attention, too.

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You’re not even worth the trouble.

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You’d be pleasantly surprised.

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Then be pleasently surprised

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Man, talk about a power move.

Great original post, and total boss move with the picture.

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Please. Anyone can get a blue smock and shmegmanometer. You were excellent in Imperium btw.

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I don’t understand how to heal myself in pvp, as Im either holy locked or heal either take too long or don’t heal enough

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I just DPS as a holy. full vers gear it ain’t entirely bad. not near best performance. but ok. better then actually healing in holy. lol

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DPS to build holy resource fasts. then use a macro for WoG etc to insta cast it on self with alt key. use macro for other abilities that insta cast like HS etc. and use alt mods to swap behaviours as well. enable the new action targeting system so you target what you look at with out an active focus. actively watch what other players are doing to prevent stun locks. don’t use cast bar heals as they see them. as well when casting a heal using macro’s to assign targets based on key combo pressed you can remain focused target on hostile. see there cast bars. and they don’t know you are preparing a heal for a party member. so less likely to interrupt.

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Dont get jelly or bitter that he proved you wrong. You’re better than that.