Yes you’re asking too much!!!
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You aren’t wrong, but to be fair, a druid’s sunfire auto-spreads and its instant cast which makes it really convenient. To really push and get the most out of it, it is best to be shifting forms for healing/damage weaving. Each class is different. On my shaman, I still manage to do a good amount of dps, especially with Vesper Totem. But most of my abilities have a cast time or short cd. I’ve played resto druid and resto shaman. I don’t find it too hard to weave in damage on either class, but druid did feel faster and more convenient with the insta cast sunfire that spreads.
For high movement fights or where a lot of aoe damage is going out on players, it can be much harder on my shaman to weave in the damage with the cast times I have. To be fair, if the only damage someone does on a resto druid is press one button for sunfire, they really aren’t playing well or optimally. I’d say in higher keys over 15, more should be expected. Like a lot of others, I don’t really like the way healers are expected to dps or that the perception is that to time high keys, we must dps. But that is the way the game is currently designed, so I’ve made it a priority to work on that style rather than just doing the “I ain’t doin’ that” attitude.
I know. I mained druid for all of bfa. My point isn’t that druids can do lots of damage if played well. It’s that it takes almost 0 effort to do a meaningful contribution.
Yes I should have been shifting and maintaining rip/rake etc on prio targets or swiping trash etc but the point was to press literally 1 button and see how it went because so many people on here say things like “I need to focus on healing” etc that I wanted to test what a literal single button worth of dps was.
Also it isn’t even really a spamable button because most of its damage is a dot so repeated Presses did very little for me. I wonder if solar wrath might have done more because I could have spammed it.
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My point is, no one is expecting you to and calling you out if you don’t.
It must be admitted that Sunfire’s dot is very good… but on high keys the pull will rarely last (if you have meta classes like warlock or survival hunter obviously it will last very little) also between the damage the dot does per tics it’s almost nothing… I would still have to play catweaving to get the most out of the druid… instead with the priest or rshammy with an attack you already do almost the same damage that the sunfire generates (that is, how long it lasts) and still that it is a cast it is still very strong and passive sometimes (and on top of that without change of form) that is why I have always heard or read that they say “The priest and rshammy are the easiest to use” when it comes to dps and healing ( at least in M+ since in raid it is something else)
I find that in ffxiv as a healer I can easily help with lots of dps. But, wow is different. I do not seem to be able to do that as much as would like. Maybe it’s because people always be standing in shiiiii 
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I run mythics. but I find the pool is in constant dwindle and isnt’ the way the endgame should be… if nothing else 10 man was much better and a lot more fun… just becuase I don’e find recycling a dungeon 1500 times fun as you do doesn’t make me wrong… but then again blizzard use to be very original. apparently people rather recycle stuff over and over in a brain dead manner
I wasnt trying to say anything about how people should dps with a druid or anything. I was just seeing how much I could do with literally a single button to make the point that meaningful damage isnt hard to do and it turns out that 1.5k overall is the answer.
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That’s got nothing to do with how much team work is needed though.
Its objectively true that an extremely high degree of team work is needed in any content that is actually challenging.
I understand, even though each class has its own skills, there are better ones than Sunfire (although it can be superior at times when the trash pack lasts a long time) such as the priest’s divine star or the shaman’s chain, all healers can do damage even though some have it easier than others (which is not bad but sometimes they abuse it a lot and thanks to that people already have their expectations)
Sure, long as we can have a similar option with dps and interruots/soothes/non magical dispels.
I logged in just to give you my like. Would that I could give more than one.
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Chances are you think they are afk, but they´re not, you just feel entitled to think they’re not doing anything because chances are you have never been a Mythic+ healer and think healing is easier than dps’ing.
And before you say anything, here’s exactly what’s going on:
It entirely depends upon the group. I had a +16 gambit the other day that was a dream to heal, and I could DPS freely throughout the majority of the dungeon. People got interrupts, killed healers, and didn’t stand in anything. The tank was relatively self sufficient and didn’t need non-stop life saving heals. As such I felt very safe to spend spare GCDs on dps.
Then I had a +16 PF afterwards that was… god awful. People standing in things left, right, and center. Loads of interrupts missed and plenty of butt pulls. The entire’s party was spiking non-stop. Sure I through out some damage, but at no point did I take “spare gcds” as free gcds… they were carefully selected when I knew that no one was going to spike. Was a nightmare.
How much damage I do directly correlates to how well you do. If you expect miracles out of me to keep you alive… be quiet (not you Everrant, royal you here) about me doing poor damage.
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Every (reasonable) player in this thread, most of us healer mains: obviously we prioritize heals, but if everyone is healed up and our choice is doing nothing or casting a damage spell, we cast damage spells, because obviously.
The people who just don’t want to do that for some reason: wELL wE aRE pROBabLY jUST trYING TO HeaL yOu, sO ITs nOT oUr fAULt.
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you think you’re helping but you’re not. Here what you’re doing if there’s nothing to heal. You’re overhealing and wasting resources.
But then they would be healing…
It’s absurd to me how any time anyone says a healer might be doing something badly people leap to their defence and start saying what ifs.
Probably because everyone blames the healer? Maybe?
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U forgot about priest they can do dmg and heal at the same time forgot what spec it’s called so qq more
They don’t. I have seen people blame dps more than anything.
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