Healers DPSing

Why now are healers expected to dps AND heal. Has it always been like this and im just noticing now? I was able to get by MoP-WoD just healing (im also big dumb and probably bad and didn’t know what was going on.)

But having the glimmer build for hpals (this expac) and the changes in shadowlands healing does not sound fun.

I understand disc healing thru dps it’s what i play right now through +15 keys and get out dps’d by hpals/druids/sham. The one spec that actually heals through dps isn’t even competing with other healers on damage.

The only spec that literally has two buttons for dps is holy and thats what I played majority of this xpac but it’s so bad in M+ above 15s.

Way of the Crane/Death Throes stacking/Feral Affinity/Igneous Potential Stacking/Avenging crusade

I get throwing out some spells when everyone is topped but c’mon.

I’m not filling two roles when I could just DPS.

It’s a mythic + mindset. Before m+, healers were never really expected at large to dps unless they were playing a Paladin or Fistweaving monk. And when you did see healers dps, either they were really good healers, or they were wasting their mana.

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Disc priests have to dps to heal

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read it again…

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This too. Always forget about disc since I like my priests to be holy.

It’s not a M+ mindset, it just became more common with M+.

Good healers in Raid would always DPS during downtime, since the healer chucking out an extra 25-50% of a DPS’s damage could mean the difference between a kill and a wipe with how frequent >1% wipes can be in prog.

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I did say that good healers would put out dps as well.

I do it for kicks, particularly while leveling.

Don’t really play M+ but it’s a trinity game so if people want to rag on about my damage outside the high end can I b-tch about their self healing, aggro management or standing in fire?

My god, this sword is sharp on both edges!? IMPOSSIBRU!

The flip side is a wipe from healers going OOM or slowing heals down because they’re low on mana from DPSing.

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Most Healers have an extremely cheap, if not mana-free source of DPS, so no, that’s not a flip side.

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In raids I DPS because healing gets so boring so quickly & the only way I can solve it is by either over healing and draining my mana or just DPS-ing, and DPS-ing is better. I honestly don’t know why people care about HPS as well. As long as nobody’s dying who cares.

I healed my first Nya on this guy a few days ago. Went 11/12 before I was too smashed to carry on with N’zoth (this is just an alt so I don’t raid much on this) and OMG I earned a whole new level of respect for healers who heal for 4-5 hour raids multiple days a week.

In keys I DPS because I’ve found it can be the difference between timing and not, however I do feel like most affixes are targetted at the healer or inadvertently put a great deal of stress on healers, so the ability to DPS is reduced, therefore I don’t DPS much. However the key itself keeps me on my toes so I find keys much more fun as compared to raids (as a healer).

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Not true. All healers except Disc can DPS for free, and Disc’s dps only costs mana because of its atonement style of healing.

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Because M+ timers GOGOGOGO

I’d rather DPS than stare at the wall when healing isn’t required, but expecting decent dps and good healing might be more than most healers have signed up for.

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As the raids gear gets better, healers heal less. It would be bad game design if the raid getting more gear meant that healers played the game less. Therefore, it is correct to make DPS part of healer gameplay so the healers always have active gameplay.

Needing to DPS also makes pre-healing more skill-based. Previously you could just pre-heal all the time and let heals go through wihle needed. When healers need to DPS it means that knowing when you should start pre-healing requires more knowledge of encounter mechanics, which is a good thing.

I know there are some people who want healer gameplay to be just clicking on red and orange squares to turn them green, but that’s just not enough for many modern players.

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this ^ i’m fine with throwing out dps when everyones topped off like I said but i will not be doing any more. If more is required someone else can heal and I’ll just main dps as I did this xpac.

Literally never gone oom from DPSing. Even actual DPS casters never go oom from casting, with the sole exception of Arcane mages.

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yes

theres not things to heal every single second of every encounter. and ending the encounter faster reduces the amount of healing needed.

Modern wow my friend. But you know that time is of the essence in M+ so all DPS counts.

If you don’t want to do that then just DPS, I don’t see a problem here.

Make wands great again!

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Druid is either burning mana with balance abilities or a CD or 2 away from emergencies because they’re cat weaving.

It’s definitely a skill that can be practiced but it’s like texting while driving. Sure you can get away with it most of time but you’re still more likely to get into an accident.