With the recent announcement of rollbacks for HC deaths due to recent DDOS we can expect further DDOS attacks to disrupt gameplay across all of WoW (retail and non-HC classic). It’s pretty obvious that Blizzard only decided to take action because major streamers were impacted; and this will be proven once we see another outage due to DDOS and limited / non-response from Blizzard. Additionally, if OF reforms after the rollbacks, they will still likely be targeted by DDOS and any further deaths + rollback will further erode the integrity of HC (which, is likely one of the goals of the DDOS anyway). This means that the rest of us will have to endure having our keys bricked and gameplay disruption just for these few individuals to play and make money streaming.
OnlyFangs vanity to live stream for profit HURTS ALL WOW PLAYERS and Blizzard is encouraging these “play for profit” steamers to tell all DDoSers “hey, we’re going to play on this day at this time, please take down all the retail servers and brick everyone’s keys, pvp battles and raids because we want to make $$$ live streaming, peons matter-not to us”.
Ya, no thanks… OnlyFangs needs to STAY DEAD or practice good OPSEC and stop announcing when they play and livestreaming… record it to post later, stop ruining everyone else’s WoW time on Retail servers because OnlyFangs wants to make bank.
This is a given, DDOS happens. I doubt that the rollback will cause even more than the normal amounts of DDOS shenanigans.
I don’t play HC, but changing your entire philosophy behind HC because a guild decided to dissolve over the DDOS that they admit was targeting them is crazy.
Especially when people have shown video proof of things like falling through the world, getting disconnected from getting caught on a rock, unable to log back in, so they use the unstuck feature (the ONLY thing Blizzard lets them do, I might add) and get sent to the opposite faction gy so they get insta gibbed by guards on login, and they do NOTHING and tell those players they just need to reroll is crazy.
Favoritism should not happen, period.
Also, in his statement he actively admitted the DDOS was targeting their group - all this means is that if they are revived, that ensures at least one more DDOS will happen because of them.
So Blizzard is actively saying they’re willing to grief possibly millions of other players to benefit one group. Because the DDOS doesn’t only affect HC Classic. It affects all wow servers.
In the short term MAYBE, but these attacks are clearly meant to cause Hardcore deaths. Take that away and the DDoSer will quickly get bored and move on.
Doubt it; the DDOS’er has already made Blizzard change their own policies, now they know they can probably accomplish more if they intentionally sabotage other community events. Just imagine these DDOSer telling Blizzard they will takedown their servers on expansion launches unless they change a policy they dislike or pay them off with cash. Blizzard has already shown it’s willing to compromise its policies if it helps them in the short term, so this isn’t something outside the realm of possibility.
In a few days the other death restores will pile up and then the fun begins.
there will lots of 20’s to 50’s going I died in the DDOS. once the denied restores pile up…grab the popcorn.
I’ve played HC before. Its “ddos” itself since tbcc even lol. when you get dudes from 3 parts of the US hitting 500 ping…its not their internet. No official DDoS. its blizzard being blizzard on the weekends! lol.
Remember, its the small understaffed underpaid overworked CS blizzard has had. this drama is not over yet. Lets stay tuned.
Except they didn’t.
Or it could mean less reason to DDOS if Blizzard will just undo any damage caused by the DDOS.
Didn’t realize people still watch them. Didn’t they stop being relevant a week after they formed?
That’s quite a reach. You know the game servers weren’t DDoSed to get Blizzard to do something the DDoSers wanted them to do, right? In fact, reviving the HC characters killed by the DDoS is the exact opposite of what the DDoSers want to happen. 
How is that a reach? Bad actors routinely use DDOS as a means to get companies to pay them off. And there was DDOS (not sure if it was same actor) during RWF, clearly causing premadeath isn’t the only goal that DDOSer might have…they may just like stirring up drama; which, they’ve succeeded at.
Some still had pretty good reach. Xaryu, Soda, Rav I enjoyed.
Rav was better first time round on Alliance.
The legends of old like Savix I don’t think I liked as much in HC as I used to in retail.
Except they did.
The rule was no rollbacks, no second chances, no exceptions. They said this like 10 times.
Saying “At our discretion” is, in fact, a direct change of their philosophy.
It has already begun. Mostly folks saying it as a joke but… folks are already doing it. So expect the “serious” ones to start more or less now as well.
I mean, let’s be honest - this change now means the hardcore servers aren’t hardcore, but rather just exists for the drama as well at this point. Since that’s the entire premise as to why this happened in the first place.
Eh… you do realize that folks who DDoS games typically do it because they find it funny to do, right? Since it is exceedingly difficult to actually go after DDoS:ers unless they are within easy range (same country as the US or within the EU typically), most DDoS attacks go unpunished (if against gaming companies).
Reviving people’s characters just means that they get to keep messing with whatever streamers decide to go back to it again. Which means a full repeat of all of this. This isn’t a hostage case (since this was clearly aimed at Onlyfangs’ raiding hours rather than Blizzard releasing some kind of content update), even if DDoS attacks typically involve that, but rather it is folks messing with streamers.
Wouldn’t DDoS’ers getting what they want also encourage more people to do it since they get what they want?
They’ll get what they want one way or another. It’s literally that simple. If not with this death, but with the 2nd, or 3rd, or 20th.
The difference is, if they don’t do anything now, the million other players of WoW aren’t inconvenienced with more DDOS attacks from the same group.
If the DDOSers want the guild the disband, they will do it until they do.
Or, the guild can be you know, smart, and not LIVE stream their raids, and post them on a delay.
“Broader stance” meaning that they will selectively apply the at our “sole discretion” whenever they deem it to be appropriate, which, at least in this case seems to be when streamers are impacted. Blizzard’s “broader stance” essentially applies to the rest of the non-streamer peasants.
How will it stop these people from knowing their server and checking to see if they are currently in a raid?