I have no interest in this, but I’d be happy for you if you got it.
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I don’t care either way, but if they do, I bet everyone clamoring for them will be on here 2 weeks after they launch complaining about the server being dead.
Log onto Skull Rock or DP and flag yourself for pvp.
There you go.
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Exactly what you said. New World was going to be one of those type servers and history repeated itself. Some starting playing in a degenerate way and the ptr literally went to a ghost town. Sure there are peole out there that like that type of stuff but in todays world a VAST majority do not. Thats why those game are very very niche now and you really dont see any new ones get a foothold for stability. It’s a fun concept the problem is certain types of people that draw to it that literally ruin it to play.
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You’re welcome to run around on the existing HC servers with your PvP flag on all the time. Now that’s hardcore.
Any open world PvP HC server would deteriorate to gank squads murdering lowbies the moment they enter contested territory. I see the appeal as a concept but the execution would be awful.
Maybe a HC-lite version with no permadeath but you lose all your gear on death? That could work for a PvP server.
If Blizzard is going to arbitrarily turn off the HC rules, then what’s the point / difference of even having BGs? Just go play them on a non-HC server for the exact same experience.
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oh so you don’t want to play hardcore? 
you know we have this thing called classic era right
Sad that Adults like you can’t grasp that this doesn’t change the actual Hardcore leveling experience and challenges and just adds an option for our HC characters to PvP for fun when we want a break from leveling.
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I think you need death in BG to make it Hardcore
But maybe they could make it easier to get back in action by adding a few features like accout wide progression of things like talents, professions, weapon skills, honor and reputations…
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But it does. Having any circumstances where HC ‘doesn’t count’ completely undermines the spirit of having a HC server.
You could just as easily argue that you should be allowed to res in end-game raiding since it technically doesn’t detract from the levelling experience.
Moreover, I fail to see what benefit adding this would add. If I want to play BGs without fear of permadeath because I want a ‘break from levelling’, I can already do that - on another server.
This is where the argument starts to fall down. Suddenly in order to make one change work, you must implement another. And another. Until you are playing a warped version of Classic WoW that nobody asked for, only appeals to a niche of players, and sounds like your typical private server.
An idea for a SOM, maybe. But for a permanent server? There’s no need to change a working formula.
It’s not even like classic is even a vanilla experience anymore and HC even less so. It’s just an alternative to retail harkening back to the original style of the game.
I think what they’ve done with Wrath and the existence of HC itself or the cries for Classic+ are proof that people are looking for something more.
I’m willing to bet if you put HC+ vs Cata Classic to a vote the tables would tip in HC+'s favor
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As far as I can tell, players are enjoying HC precisely because it harkens back to the golden age of WoW and disincentivises the min-max go-go meta that dominated Classic. And Wrath seems to be losing players to Classic as time goes on.
Probably. But I’m willing to bet that if you put HC+ vs Cata Classic vs Blizzard-please-leave-our-recreation-of-a-20-year-old-game-alone to a vote, the tertiary option would dwarf support for the first two combined.
its as if these people only have this single vision in their head how THEY are the last man standing and dominate everybody else. Best and toughest RAWR.
When in realiy they ll probably get ripped apart as one of the first and need another week to get a toon ready for PvP. What a brain fart
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I would have suggested level saves by battlegroup but I could only imagine the unholy screeching “NEVER!”
I think with a lot of work, they would make it a 10 vs 10 duel ruleset. You drop to 1 hp and you are held in a 1 hp stasis for 30 seconds (or possibly become a non-participant for the remainder of the BG?).
Importantly, i dont think “killing blows” should give honor unless it IS a killing blow.
Without pvp is softcore, not hardcore
+1 HC PvP servers
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I’m assuming you have your PvP flag on at all times on HC?
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Be the change you want to see. Get organized with all these others and create PvP guilds on the current servers. Let Blizz see there is a market for this.
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It’s always newbs who think the world is going to be EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF and just random people wandering around on their own occasionally running into other equal level players.
When really its going to be pre-organized guilds power leveling and then camping the contested zone entrance in a raid group and/or rogues ganking flight paths etc. until the server dies.
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of course, but from level 20 onwards; It’s like the level where the contested zones start on a PvP server