HC Classic: World Buffs

Please don’t make world buffs allowed inside raids. You can still have the excitement of world buffs and the social aspect that comes with them. Just have the buffs be there to help with open world content. On bloodsail those massive crowds in stormwind/org are almost all levellers anyway. The world buff meta will only be more demanding and more annoying to obtain in hardcore classic. Mind controlling for warchiefs as alliance will not be a fun social experience at all…

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Do you have a 60 HC character that you raid on? I’d say that if you want to get sun buff then MCing for it is a good trade off since horde doesn’t have salv. Ty

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Strawman Fallacy.

Yes, but I don’t expect you to answer that. Hence the “ty”

But I do expect to know if you have a 60 on hc.

World buffs make raids far more enjoyable, and make raids in HC more viable. That said having played as alliance and raided extensively, I don’t know anyone who ever bothered with the war chief buff. So I don’t think you need to worry too much about that. Also and if gathering a few buffs is too much for you, you’re certainly not going to be up for all the required consumables needed for raiding HC.

That said, world buffs will be far harder to get on a actual HC server as both Ony, and ZG require you to actually clear content, so there will be far fewer buffs going out. Songflower will be an easy one to get through.

If you did not know anyone getting the warchief buff then no, you did not raid extensively. As it was extremely prevalent within any note worthy raiding guild, and was meta all across the board, a simple look at warcraft logs proves this.

That meta will not change, and the difficulty of getting world buffs will not decrease the meta either. It will only serve to make it even more cancerous to obtain as you will be forced to do, given the extreme consequences of not having them due to the unforgiving nature of hardcore.

Already hardcore guilds are requiring a strict world buff requirement. It will be much more tryhard than original release I promise you.

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They will be in game. Cope

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Omega cope lmao.

World buffs make the game way better for Vanilla.

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Hmmm…don’t do it then?

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I used to be anti world buff until I played a human warrior arms warrior with rallying

So the only raids that will ever happen is with full world buff

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That’s the way it always goes everyone’s against them till they play with and without them on two different server launches

If you needed the warchief buff for any raids in classic (non hc), I just don’t know what to say, yes there were some super sweaty alliance guilds that did it, but it was hardly necessary, I don’t think any of the guilds on Bloodsail actually got it as a standard buff. I know we ran every raid, had some of the best times on our server, and we never bothered with more than ZG, Ony, Songflower, DM and the Dm Fair if it was up. In fairness, Bloodsail was never a huge server though.

I can see a much stronger desire for the warchief buff on HC especially since some of the other buffs will be harder to get, but at the same time most people won’t have the alts, or the ability to get it easily so I can’t see many guilds making it a requirement as getting people for raids will already be strenuous. I do expect the effort to raid on HC to be extremely high though, I know the consumes we used in SOM were costly, part of this will be driven by the HC nature and dying, the other part will be that many of the HC crowd seem to be more into the leveling aspect, less the hard core raider, both of these will eliminate most casual raiding as with attrition it just won’t be sustainable.

It will really be interesting to see how some things shake out with an actual hardcore server, where there is no softcore element to provide things like ony heads, or consumes easily and with no risk.