Fel Barrage was too good at what it did, you outgrew what it did but that doesn’t change that.
The AoE nerfs themselves were barely 4-5% and the spec is still one of the strongest, if not the strongest m+ option with solid ST on top. Get over yourself.
I really hate your DH can’t roll a troll race. Poor DH’s. Feels bad to see them do only double the dps in mythic plus over many classes on such short CDs and no ramp up.
I would have tears to shed if they weren’t already evaporated by ragefire.
Skill issue.
Frost mage demo lock BM hunter sub rogue UDK boomy all capable of doing same dmg as pre nerfed havoc in keys.
Not to mention they are all better PI targets and benefit more from Aug evoker.
I feel like feral is probably harder. And you gave it away with this sentence.
The thing I’m genuinely concerned by is this isn’t a troll thread, humanitydh has been around a long time and held this opinion through ups and downs and even throughout the ptr of this patch when DH was even stronger than what released to live.
He believes what he says and that scares me.
Surely not. This has to be bait lol.
I do wish that would have been worded less than like bait, but …Though I agree with you in principle, this statement is hardly true if one really looks at it. That said it does seem more difficult than the last time I played it with too many, and longer GCD. At first I felt like I was on my rogue again, but it did require a little more forethought and that was okay. I’m still not doing great in open-world, but I’m a medium talent player.
I think my biggest gripe is there just is too much taking away and switching things up mid-season when I finally get a handle on my rotations. But that happens to everyone. 
It happens all the time, too much imo in their continual uphill to balance classes. Every once in awhile they get it all right for pretty much everyone, then some fringe group complains, and then they shoot themselves in the foot trying to fix what ain’t broken! kind of their MO.
In that case this “bait” is his entire personality going back over 5 years. I’m honestly not sure what’s worse…
Maybe im reaching here but my monk ww feels op then again i don’t do anything hard yet will mostly be doing that in warwithin.
It was an easy target. Nerfing is part of the forums politics that go on. So the two classes that always seem to be targeted are DH and Hunter. If either of those classes are doing well there will be cries for nerfs.
Meanwhile a class like Rogue can have the top spec by a wide margin, plus 3 of the top 10 specs and somehow manage to dodge the nerf bat at will.
Havoc was creating insane problems in PVP. It wasnt an easy target, it was responsible game direction.
Primarily in solo shuffle. The entire game shouldn’t be balanced around solo shuflle.
The alternative is to leave Shuffle to rot? Its a new feature.
With or without externals on the casters?
must be a pvp post? Havoc was barely touched in pve
The problem is that the DH nerf for solo shuffle has an impact on all areas of the game depending on the nature of the nerf. It’s going to make it weaker in organized arena comps.
If they are really lazy about a nerf it can impact it in in PvP and PvE.
I hear what youre saying but im not sympathetic because it happens the other way around a lot more often.
We are already forced to pick between heal and damage. Maybe dh should be forced to do the same
This isn’t about pvp. The pvp nerfs were probably justified.
I dont think you can separate the two