Havoc DH haste

Hello,

Quick question. Is there a point having haste as a Havoc DH?

When I sim myself, they want me to get crit and mastery only. Currently I am sitting at 400 haste only. I feel like my DPS went down. But yet, the sims want me to get more crit and mastery.

Do we have some kine of breakpoint for haste or is it absolutely useless?

I am fairly geared (615, 4 set + 2 set from weapon/trinket combo) and all I can do on heroic is 80-85 parses, even joining good groups speed clearing the raid. When I look at the top logs I can see their apm is higher than mine, but I swear, I am destroying my keyboard and have near 100% uptime on bosses.

Any tips?

I believe stats weights for DH rely heavily on the build you’re running. Crit is king always but mastery and haste interchange I think. Shattered destiny build wants more haste for more globals to extend meta and Any Means Necessary makes mastery really good. Jedith and VooDoosaurus have good videos on YT.

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It depends on the build but for the standard fel scarred raid build mastery and crit are well above anything else. Haste just doesn’t really do much for the build

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Yeah, long gone are the days of stacking haste/vers. For some reason mastery garbage is considered “fun” even though it does literally nothing but increase chaos damage. Well, move speed I guess but who tf cares? Vers made us tankier.

They need to buff Furious Gaze so it gives us 300% haste like in BFA then let us stack crit/vers.

Haste is important. A VDH is a very mobile tank, beginning to function properly at @16% Haste, but shouldn’t exceed 25% as the rotation goes haywire unless you’re a very fast decision maker/key puncher. Speed is useful, too: 3% minimum is helpful.
It’s all about applying Frailty asap, and hitting the enemy as many times as possible in as short a time as possible.
My VDH main is currently sitting at 7% Haste and takes ages to kill mobs, let alone bosses, until Fel Devastation and Fel Scarred are available. However, my 2nd VDH, swapped from HDH as that just doesn’t seem to be working properly, is a mincing machine at 25% Haste.