Havoc Demon Hunter forgotten?

it’s been over a month since the weak changes to DH were announced, and today they’ve continued adjusting other classes by improving their tier sets and tweaking their talent trees.

And DH? They only made one change, which was more of a massive nerf to its playstyle and abilities rather than an improvement.

Is that all they’re going to do to wash their hands of it and make no further changes? How long do we have to wait for them to announce a meaningful update for DH? Or are they just going to make one change and let this class die for yet another patch?

I’m asking so I can mentally prepare myself and switch to another class instead of playing one that only brings a raid buff.

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You know DH changes don’t come in until the 11th hour so we get little iterations, followed by the classic spender aura buff 2 weeks into the season.

This team hates us almost as much as BrM.

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You know the answer, you’re just in denial like the rest of us.

At risk of being labeled a troll, what are the current problems with DH? I’ve just resubbed after leaving in early Shadowlands so I’m not really familiar with the state of the spec, it feels about like I remember it feeling, albeit with less overall leech.

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Summarized here better than I could do on my own. A lot of the bugs are TWW/hero talent specific but the feeling of the class not receiving as much attention as other classes has been persistent for several expansions(most anecdotal accounts say since Shadowlands), exacerbated by Evoker getting their 3rd spec months after release while DH still gets told there’s no ideas/story reason for them to get a 3rd spec.

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And then they are so late that the poorly thought out changes can not be adjusted. It is a pattern that we have come far to use to enduring…

Right now the issue is most the changes they did make are bugged and not working as they should. Then they replaced a key cap stone talent that converted all our damage to Chaos, allowing it to be buffed by our mastery. Even the developer admitted that this will have a massive negative impact upon our damage output and that Fel Scar will need to be retuned. Yet we still haven’t heard a peep out of them as to what their plans are or if the bugs are even going to be fixed in time to actually test the class.

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Blizzard has abandoned multpile specs this expansion due to either laziness or gutting of positions

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I can smell a 10% fel blade and immo aura buff on the horizon, have no fear

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Need 100%+ dmg Felblade is the most important spell we have.

Anyone sane jumped off the havoc DH vagon in DF, this what they are doing now with bringing back no mover should of been done back than when me and good chunk of DH mains wanted it, we were also feeling neglected as evoker was getting 3rd spec that broke the meta and havoc was stuck in 2 forever, so we suggested splitting mover and no mover in 2 seperate specs. What were we met with? A ridicule on DH discord from admins saying no way DH should get 3rd spec, that mover is the way to go since no mover is boring. Im glad DH is in this state, from simple to play fun spec they made it extreme difficult without viable alternatives and in the end neglected it as a whole.

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the DH discord is just an echo chamber for morons. If you don’t toe the party line one of the mods/admins will ban you as soon as they notice.

But yeah, DH is, especially havoc is low prio. They are doing much better damage now, but the spec still feels aweful to actually play.

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i can’t say much for raiding or pvp as i only do M+. currently havoc is probably one of the 2 or 3 lowest dps, and probably the lowest melee dps in M+ content. this is especially bad for havoc because the only other spec demons hunters have is a tank spec.

i am not sure if havoc will be doing better damage when 11.1 is released, cause right now the changes to havoc are all bugged.

another week no changes, not even bug fixes. wounded quarry still doesnt work. good thing mage got their weekly 25 lines of changes tho

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Wow, we didn’t even get a mention. So another week of basically everything broken.

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yeah, the couple of changes they bothered to make cant even be tested because so much of the spec is bugged

They gotta set us up for that S2-first week aura buff to demon blades, chaos strike, blade dance, and felblade.

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0 dh changes, better delete this class

Gorfield’s grasp on Havoc sounds cool. The potential for more eyebeams also sound super useful as is also the case for Spectral Sight improvemens for pvp. Not sure if there is much else to get me excited for DH right now though. Any spec doing less than half of Arcane’s DPS are going to fail to impress me. Might have to dawn some robes if Arcane stays this strong compared to everyone else.

Most people are forgotten unless you’re a mage.

Don’t expect much.