How nice would it be to extremely buffed at the start of 9.1 much like ret / war / rogue in 9.0…
Blizz hook us up for the free Glad boost like you did to these classes and Boomy! A start would be to make chaos strike feel like it’s worth spending and buff it 50%. 
Much appreciated, DH community.
That and give us some of our leach and bd dodge back.
I’d love to see more leech again.
Nerfing it feels like part of the class identity was removed.
Let chaos strike have a chance to drop a soul fragment like it used to do so you could heal. Hard to survive in PvP with the heals.
Yeah, I miss being able to use Demonic Appetite for shard generation on chaos strike.
Nope blizzard will nerf DH some more. I can see NF being nerf and damage aura nerf. I love my DH but I don’t have any hope they know how balance works. Hey Fire mage is top DPS let buff a lego that gives them even more damage! Seems fair.
MM hunter got sxxx on after they fix the NF bug and now all 3 of their spec at button barrel and all they got a buff that still puts them at a 4% ST nef and 7 to 10% AoE damage nerf.
So no I don’t think blizzard will make DH at least decent again. Not will maybe a few expansion after when they throw some PR stun saying they finally admitted DH damage is too low but is too late to fix it so we will jsut leave things as it is.
It feels really weird when your damage spender / resource dump does less damage per second than your total / target dps output.
Say you can hit 5k sustained dps over 5 min. But chaos strike is hitting for about 2300 non crit. You hit the button because it’s part of the rotation and is more dps than simply not pressing it and doing nothing, but it feels bad. It doesn’t feel like it’s contributing to your damage package in a meaningful way.
Havoc has major fundamental problems that need to be fixed at a base level rather than merely waiting for the next round of borrowed power to prop it up.
During a chaos theory proc, chaos strike feels smoother, worth pressing. But chaos theory isn’t even really ahead of BW and DGB on single target damage any more (which is sad because it’s the most focused single target throughput legendary we have by design and it is now getting outscaled by cleave legos).
Now, I’m not saying nerf BW, I’m saying maybe chaos strike itself needs a 25-50% buff to its base damage.
The solution I can see for SL for now is to buff chaos strike damage like you said, lowers is fury cost or increase passive fury regen. Right it is like we either have no fury and is biting our thumb or we are over cap on fury and can’t spend it fast enough. There needs to be less RNG when it comes to fury regen.
gotta remember chaos strike hits twice per attack, so while it’s hitting 2300 non crit that’s with mainhand then offhand should be doing like 80% of that damage on top of it.
The damage is split between mh and oh strikes. It’s not hitting for 2300 non crit mh non buffed, that figure was an average of mh+oh non crit.
They’re literally two separate hits in details. My Chaos strike on a dummy just hit for 2.9k total 1. 1768 hit and another 1,136 hit. My next one on the target dummy was a 3.2k hit, 2,258 and 895. You can get 4k+ crits on one hit of it.
I just did 9.8k damage in one annihilation hit with choas theory up but i got a relentless onslaught proc too. 4074 single hit from one of them and a 2633 hit from another.
It will be very funny when 9.1 hits blizzard decides to use the nerf bat on VDH and keep HDH the same or even a nerf.
Pretty sure VDH will get a slight nerf and havoc will get a slight buff.
havoc will end up in the middle of the pack from a sim perspective and VDH will most likely stay around the A tier with the current kiting meta until tanks can withstand punishment.
Again, in pve its really hard to complain THAT much considering most players cant parse above 50%. It does suck to do less dmg than a boomy in a raid and parse 30% higher than them though shrug
Shut up I don’t want to face reality here
Well considering blizzard has not nerfed rogues. They can still kill you in the span of 2 stuns. Same with balance druids and convoke
You have a chance to redeem yourself here blizz its not that hard to fix havoc dh especially when there have been many good ideas already thrown out on here, do you really want to continue getting flamed?