You don’t get it.
A 5 point PW is free. In fact you actually get paid back 5 energy to use it.
A 1cp PW doe less direct damage and costs 20 energy.
Stop using PW @ 1cp
Use thrash.
You don’t get it.
A 5 point PW is free. In fact you actually get paid back 5 energy to use it.
A 1cp PW doe less direct damage and costs 20 energy.
Stop using PW @ 1cp
Use thrash.
You dont get it. You use it to apply to the dot debuff while you are stacking CP and to fish for extra combo points. If you don’t you are literally wasting damage. Seriously it’s like talking to a brick wall at this point. Go test it out for yourself please and then come back with your findings ready for a discussion. Thank you.
Rip ticks every 2 seconds. It takes 3-4 globals to hit 5cp and apply a full Pw for free.
Youre paying 20 energy to to have it up 1 tick sooner and do 1/5 of its direct damage.
That’s energy wasted that’s not being used on swipe.
This is how delusional you are.
I give an example of how one primal wrath even with 1 cp does more damage than a single swipe and you think im using it my rotation. That one cp wrath is going to give 2 rip ticks. That a potential for 2 free combo points and I didn’t even have to swipe. That means more finisher moves.
You realize they are called finishing moves for a reason? They do more damage then the combo generating ones.
Spoken like someone who can’t admit they are wrong.
LMFAO
I know you are. You already admitted you don’t use thrash or 3xWFR.
That means You rely on rip for your bleed buff, so you apply it ASAP. Wasting energy to do so.
Either that or you just take one target and swipe to 5 cp on the rest of the pull without any bleed buff.
It’s no wonder swipe is only 18% of your damage.
Like I said, imagine starting a fight and not using RAKE, which is a bleed in case you were wondering. LMFAO
If you are not applying rake to every target ~3-4 targets. Again, you are missing on higher dps.
On aoe pulls with 4+ mobs? Absolutely
The stealth buff from rake is going to deal more dps than hitting one swipe on x4 targets bud.
Yeah, because you don’t use thrash or WFR
The stealth buff from rake is doing to do 40k damage in one global. Good luck getting swipe to do that amount.
Im not making up numbers when the tooltip says does 23k damage over 15 seconds and stealth increases the damage by 100%. Thats 46k dot damage.
Thats your problem. It still doesn’t change the fact that rake is going to do more damage per global.
Lmao… applying a dot only to have the mob die before it’s full duration is MY problem?
You’re the one tab raking on aoe pulls like we’re in 8.0. That brutal slash filler habit too hard to break?
Thrash, swipe to 5cp, PW.
If there’s a high hp target in the mix, or a kill priority then absolutely, Start off with a rake also.
But never start with a 1 cp PW. And never use 3x GL.
Yeah it is your problem. It’s called knowing when to use your abilities. I’ll tab rake if there are 3-4 targets because its a dps increase. Not because I only know how to use thrash and swipe. I suggest you take a look at dreamgrove or the druid discord.
Don’t take this guy seriously. He’s a 1500 pvp player and he cant even complete a full raid on LFR mode.
I have no desire to run lfr. Id rather play in traffic.
Sad when a retired raider who only casually plays the game has a better grasp on the class. Look how mad you’re getttin! It’s adorable!
Dreamgrove.gg literally has a spell priority spreadsheet with numbers on it. (It wont let me post links) Here is the information. You wanted the math. Enjoy your state of denial.
Ability | Base AP% | Energy Cost | Assumptions |
---|---|---|---|
Rake Initial | 18.225 | 35 | |
Rake Ticks | 77.805 | - | |
PW Initial | 31.5 | 20 | 5CP |
PW Ticks | 78.75 | - | 5CP |
Rip | 157.5 | 20 | 5CP |
Thrash Direct | 5.5 | 40 | |
Thrash Ticks | 17.5 | - | |
Brutal Slash | 69 | 25 | |
Swipe | 34.5 | 35 | Target is bleeding |
Shred | 55.2 | 40 | Target is bleeding |
Bite | 247.6656 | 50 | 5CP and 50 energy |
No. of Targets | Rake | Rip | PW Initial | PW Total | Thrash | Brutal Slash | Swipe | Bite |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 48.5793 | 129.8281793 | 37.3328065 | 48.3 | 24.15 | 267.3649218 |
2 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 97.1586 | 259.6563585 | 74.665613 | 96.6 | 48.3 | 267.3649218 |
3 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 145.7379 | 389.4845378 | 111.9984195 | 144.9 | 72.45 | 267.3649218 |
4 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 194.3172 | 519.312717 | 149.331226 | 193.2 | 96.6 | 267.3649218 |
5 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 242.8965 | 649.1408963 | 186.6640325 | 241.5 | 120.75 | 267.3649218 |
6 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 291.4758 | 778.9690755 | 223.996839 | 289.8 | 144.9 | 267.3649218 |
7 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 340.0551 | 908.7972548 | 261.3296455 | 338.1 | 169.05 | 267.3649218 |
8 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 388.6344 | 1038.625434 | 298.662452 | 386.4 | 193.2 | 267.3649218 |
9 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 437.2137 | 1168.453613 | 335.9952585 | 434.7 | 217.35 | 267.3649218 |
10 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 485.793 | 1298.281793 | 373.328065 | 483 | 241.5 | 267.3649218 |
11 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 534.3723 | 1428.109972 | 410.6608715 | 531.3 | 265.65 | 267.3649218 |
12 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 582.9516 | 1557.938151 | 447.993678 | 579.6 | 289.8 | 267.3649218 |
13 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 631.5309 | 1687.76633 | 485.3264845 | 627.9 | 313.95 | 267.3649218 |
14 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 680.1102 | 1817.59451 | 522.659291 | 676.2 | 338.1 | 267.3649218 |
15 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 728.6895 | 1947.422689 | 559.9920975 | 724.5 | 362.25 | 267.3649218 |
16 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 777.2688 | 2077.250868 | 597.324904 | 772.8 | 386.4 | 267.3649218 |
17 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 825.8481 | 2207.079047 | 634.6577105 | 821.1 | 410.55 | 267.3649218 |
18 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 874.4274 | 2336.907227 | 671.990517 | 869.4 | 434.7 | 267.3649218 |
19 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 923.0067 | 2466.735406 | 709.3233235 | 917.7 | 458.85 | 267.3649218 |
20 | 156.3768361 | 259.6563585 | 971.586 | 2596.563585 | 746.65613 | 966 | 483 | 267.3649218 |
Apparently you have no desire to anything on your druid this expansion because you literally are 0/9 on every raid. Sad how older people can’t figure out how to change and act like a child when someone tells them they are doing something wrong.
Lol. You copy pasted numbers with zero understanding of what they mean. You’re too cute!
I did notice it has PW listed at 5cp though, and not 1.
I also noticed its energy cost is wrong as it’s not taking into account SOTF. So that kinda throws a wrench in all of that.
E for effort though!
LOL once again you show how clueless you are bro. This is using both sabertooth and soul of the forest. If you went to the website and read the write up they gave.
You really think I dont understand what these numbers mean? These numbers. This spreadsheet will provide both the DPE and damage per energy (DPR) for all abilities including talents. DPE is damage per execute also known as damage per cast.
dreamgrove.gg/feral/2019-01-02-feral_bloodtalons_and_spell_priority_spreadsheet/
I really do, yes. I honestly think you’re clueless about feral. I think you perpetuate the bad stigma that plagues this class, and it makes me sad.
I think we should add eachother as friends and run a dungeon together! Square up toe to toe!
Oh yes, thats why im the one getting invited for raids and your stuck doing LFR. You make me laugh.