Having a hard time leveling as Arcane Mage

Hey, all!

So I just got back into WoW because of the anniversary event and well… It feels like I can’t do anything related to the event without doing War Within stuff. I love the story so far and I’m enjoying the quest pacing.

My issue is that… I’m dying. A lot. I can’t pull one enemy without almost dying. First, it was my gear, but now I’m 400+ in everything and I’m still eating dirt if I pull more than one overworld “pack”. Which, I can get around, normally, but… sometimes they walk into me or a stray arcane orb accidentally hits one.

My question, I guess is… How can I make the leveling experience more enjoyable? I’m kinda getting frustrated dying to simple mobs just sitting around. I have 400+ gear, I’ve been using an IcyVeins build, I’ve done research into the class. Everything is saying it shouldn’t be this tough but it is.

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If by 400+ you mean <450 at 70, then you will eat dirt.

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Then… how do I get better gear? The AH is useless and the quests are only giving me 500 gear at level 75.

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The gear seems ok for 1-2 mobs.

Potential tips and tricks:

  • if you specifically set the level range for gear at 71-71 in the ah there are some 525+ gear
  • Keep health potions on hand
  • mirror image, cone of cold, barriers, alter time, blast wave, invisibility, frost nova are either CCs/heals/distractions you can use for survivability. You have polymorph on mobs that can be affected by them
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I’ll try the potions on hand. I couldn’t find much gear for my level on the AH though and I have been using these defensives but in some cases, using them might lead to me pulling more enemies.

Thank you though, this does help.

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You could always try leveling through dungeons. The timewalking ones give a ton of xp.

But open world mobs do seem a lot more formidable in TWW than previously.

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Since you’re on Moonguard, I can look at crafting some gear to send over to you on my tailor.

I believe its belt, shoulders, cloak and gloves that aren’t locked to level 80, with each being ~545.

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Aaaaaaaa, I really appreciate the offer. I’m actually on Wyrmrest but I haven’t figured out how to change the character on the forums. (I apologize, I am baby to the new changes in and out of game.)

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Click on your character at the top right of the page, if you’re on desktop. There’s an option at the bottom of the menu that drops down.

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Appreciate it. xDD

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They obliterated arcane mage this expansion. couldnt stand him.

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That’s fine, Wyrmrest is my home realm, I just also have characters on Moon Guard.

I’m on the way home now, but can login when I arrive home to quickly do some crafting.

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You are so sweet, I really appreciate this. <3

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genuinely? I would just level through dungeons, mage hasn’t been a proper solo class for awhile.

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ty for being a nice player rare to see

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If all else fails, you can level using frost spec and then switch back to arcane later, when you’re geared up enough to survive more easily.

Frost always seems more forgiving to me.

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You guys are super , what a great spirit .Have a great day guys

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Dreamsurge zones in DF. Collect the green orbs. Every 100 currency is a 450-460.
I do this on all my fresh 70 toons.

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I’ve sent a few items in the mail.

Some pieces require level 80, but I made a couple of each piece you can currently equip - that way you have at least some choice when it comes to secondary stats.

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Honestly, it’s mainly a matter of the gear more than anything else, and it certainly isn’t the first time early expansion has had a sharp jump in the item level curve going from one to the next.

Going off the item levels from LFR/Normal Amirdrassil, do keep in mind that the vast majority of folks that were active at the end of Dragonflight were likely 450+ at the end of the expansion. The pre-expansion event was dropping gear as high as 480 which would have actually been on par with MYTHIC gear. I myself was partly Heroic geared on my main with my main stable of alts either in the pre-expansion gear, or LFR geared. For folks like me? Yeah, leveling through the early part of TWW was like sleepwalking. Recently however, I did take a fresh alt into TWW with full heirlooms.

Holy hell…

Yeah, if you’ve got a sub 400 item level coming into TWW due to leveling a fresh character, it’s an entirely different story. I honestly feel like the early leveling is tuned towards a character that’s about 420-430 item level, and even then that might be a little on the low side. Realistically speaking, no one is going to be hitting that during the leveling process from 1-69.

Same thing actually happened in DF. My SL geared characters had zero issues upon starting while the lesser played or fresh alts ran into a figurative brick wall when they hit 60. I think the key issue is the fact that they want to set an item level that doesn’t completely invalidate old raid gear the moment you step foot into the new content for the first time, but at the same time they need to set it high enough to be a challenge to a fresh player while also feeling like they are getting meaningful rewards and power boosts from quests, world drops, etc.

The OTHER issue however is that leveling is just so damn fast now that I honestly cannot comprehend the fact that there are folks with more money than sense that constantly drop $60 for a leveling boost in a game where you can actually do the current 1-70 grind in about 10-15 hours. If a player was actually sitting at level 70 for a bit BEFORE heading into the current expansion, they’d actually get the chance to get gear better suited for early TWW. Realistically however? Yeah, no one that has the expansion is going to run around in old content for a day or two just to be better geared for the early part of TWW, especially considering that if you absolutely need to get geared, you can likely find low level crafted TWW gear to get started with.

Only other advice I can give past that is this: a new expansion always a major gear reset. Top end Heroic/Mythic raiders are going to have the early advantage, but for the most part we’re all on equal footing by the middle levels prior to capping. Regardless of item level, never walk into a new expansion thinking you’re going to pull an entire room in a dungeon like you were at the end of the previous expansion. In fact, I strongly feel this mindset helped contribute to the early issues with Cata all those years ago and the subsequent nerfing that essentially gave way to the game as we know it now, but that’s a debate for another time.

Try to go slow and steady, watch your pulls, and while I generally never recommend buying gear from the AH as it is replaced so damn fast while leveling, if you’ve got sub 400 pieces coming into TWW, you might not really have much choice on the matter. As another option, perhaps consider delves at Tier 1?

Also, don’t forget about the ENTIRE toolkit your class has. This post covered that very well:

People ALWAYS seem to either forget or ignore all of their skills and defensive options while leveling. USE THEM! I can’t begin to tell you how many times I’ve actually seen people playing classes that I know for a fact have an interrupt ability, yet they’ll take multiple large hits to the face and die to damage that was 100% avoidable.

It’s also good practice for instances. I don’t run my priest often, but when I do nothing annoys me more than having to heal avoidable damage because people are either too lazy to cancel out a mob’s incoming spell, or they completely ignored the interrupt in their talent tree.

Don’t be that person.

You really haven’t leveled a frost mage, have you?

Riddle me this: if it isn’t a proper solo class, then how did I get my own frost mage from 70-80 with just two deaths due to my own carelessness in delves?

I can’t speak for fire/arcane, but the class is MORE than fine for solo play. Hell, out of all the classes I’ve leveled thus far in TWW (DK, mage, hunter, rogue, warrior, priest, and soon a monk), I’d say the mage was actually the most fun despite not being one of my primary classes.

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