title is the main subject of post. haven’t really been on the lore forums in a while, how’s blizzard handling the lore? I heard its good, seems fine but then again it’s blizzard so who knows. Did the trolls get anything new? what are those shrimp people, they seem somewhat interesting? is that level 10 blood elf with the bad takes still here? What’s the deal with the new raid, I know its deathwings lab but is there any backstory behind the bosses other than being rando experiments?
I NEED TO FEED ON KNOWLEDGE, GIVE ME ALL THE DEATS PLEASE!
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The lore is being handled better than Shadowlands, so it’s just okay.
I don’t know much about the shrimp people, though there’s nothing new for trolls. You can ask Everien if you want to know more about that.
The raid is about plundering Deathwing’s lab for secrets and power or stopping the villains from doing so. Nearly half the bosses in Deathwing’s lab aren’t experiments. There’s a drakonid who’s the Igor to Deathwing’s Dr Frankenstein, a fragment of Deathwing’s own soul and leaders of the Djaradin (fire giants) raiding his lab to free their ancient leader and get power.
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It’s not bad per se but it’s pretty boring imo. Probably the most bored I’ve ever been from WoW story, even SL at least had the appeal of being hilariously bad.
Everything just feels too… artificial? Like too deliberately inoffensive and uplifting. There’s no edge.
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People are unhappy because the Horde and Alliance are making nice, so there “isn’t enough war in Warcraft.” In other words, it’s [insert whatever day of the week you’re reading this].
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It feels like a Saturday morning cartoon.
We are literally in a war against an enemy faction… 
People are just mad because they wanted the warcraft to be against other playable faction.
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The Djaradin were originally planned to be proto-Trolls but Blizzard changed that before expansion release.
I haven’t kept up with everything, I don’t know what this is.
Yes.
The first three bosses are experiments, the next two are Djaradin, and the one after is a Drakonid whose purpose was to guard Aberus. The next is Neltharion’s pet Hydra, then it’s Neltharion’s echo. It’s not actually his echo though, just a Faceless One in disguise as it. The last boss is Sarkareth, leader of the antagonist Dracthyr faction the Sundered Flame.
Other than being Neltharion’s lab, there’s direct access to the Void at the very end of the raid which Sarkareth uses to empower himself. This probably contributed directly to Deathwing’s corruption and the Faceless One might’ve came from there.
Well the story doesn’t make sense. The Primal Incarnates are supposed to be zealots who consider any magic other than elemental magic foreign and bad for azeroth and anyone who uses other magic types should die. Then Iridikron sends Fyrakk nose diving into “elemental fire” knowing dang well it’s shadowflame. And Fyrakk upon arriving doesn’t say “eww shadow magic gross” and leave. No he bathed in it and said he would master it. But wait he hates shadow magic it’s not elemental. Whatever. If Razageth could see what she died for…
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Basically still reeling from the mess that was Shadowlands, but ignoring it as much as possible seems to be the plan.
Which I’m good with.
Things so far seem to make sense (at least by Blizzard standards) and I haven’t run into any egregious retcons or wildly out of character moments, so… Pretty good, relatively speaking.
Post razageth things feel a bit filler
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they aren’t breaking anything fundamental like in SL, but also not doing anything interesting. Or really anything interesting. Or really anything at all, we’re re-learning things about deathwing, old gods and dragons we already knew. Stuff is very boring and extremely poorly written.
The Faceless One clearly was able to come and go as it pleased as it had Nefarian’s Sword which was once Anduin Lothar’s Sword(regardless of whether or not it is the Great Royal Sword he wielded in his last moments).
It seems the Void was using Aberrus for continued experimentation after Neltharion abandoned it. One of the experiments was draining the Djaradin for Shadowflame with the other experiments being on perfecting the Elementium Armor of which only one Dragon survived with said success deciding what sort of Elementium Armor(the sort that drives you insane sort) would be used by Deathwing(who went from insane yet cleverly manipulative to a Fyrakk rip-off).
Furthermore the Void judging from the art had grand plans on further improving the Armor before N’Zoth sped up the time table and forced the insanity-inducing armor on Deathwing. Of course they still planned on continuing the experiments but needed the Black Dragonflight on board(so that they could be experimented on by the Shadowflame-infused Elementium Armor) and harvesting Shadowflame from the Djaradin but they refused.
The Void’s most recent experiment was the Slitherdrakes which they planned on exposing to the Void Portal before they escaped and we marched right into the building itself to end the experiments.
The Void settled on exposing Sarkareth to it’s energies in lieu of the Slitherdrakes and he went and got killed by us.
Honestly Iridikron should have held off on opening the way until the Slitherdrakes were finished since it’s clear that Fyrakk is continuing the Shadowflame Armor experimentation after his own bath in Shadowflame.
The Void’s research(as well as the research of Sinestra and Nefarian) was a legacy of unfinished failures while Neltharion’s research is a grand legacy embodied by the Dracthyr(Neltharion’s personal pet project he finished then later abandoned because the Void made him fear rebellion from them) and Twilight Dragonflight(Neltharion’s finishing of what Sinestra started).
Incidentally the next Patch 10.1.5 has Iridikron steal a Void Disk(that works like the Dragon Soul) to steal Galakrond’s power for his own scheme. Galakrond’s corpse is visibly infusing the ground with Necromantic Death Magic(the same sort seen in Maldraxxus) so that means Iridikron has that in his possession along with Void Magic despite Chrono Lord Deios’s demise.
Chrono Lord Deios in his last breath insists that Murozond is still possible despite his own attempt to create Murozond in the Past from Proto-Nozdormu failing so that means Iridikron be the backup plan which involves creating Murozond in the Present.
Raszageth was the most pure of the Primal Incarnates while the others retain their Elemental Ancestors’ servitude to the Void despising the Titans for daring to defy the Void’s reign.
Alexstrasza assumed that the other Incarnates had no idea of extent of Iridikron’s depravity but it is becoming more and more clear that they were well aware of his depravity and endorsed it with only Raszageth being oblivious to the depravity her 3 Clutchmates endorsed.
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I actually enjoyed the Shadowlands lore greatly , EXCEPT what they did to Arthas in patch 9.2. The Jailer was an awesome villain for me and it is fitting that one of the loot items he drops is called “Leg guards of The Ultimate Threat”.
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What would you do instead?
better than it WAS, but then again, consider how it was:
or so you think…
Let’s just say I have two nickles. One from Ny’alotha and the other from Aberrus.
The sword has a completely different name though. It is not the same sword.
True. Since that last comment of mine I did the raid, and I think that nickel from Nya’lotha’s looking prominent right now.