Lmao. Highborne are now a horde race?
Wait, are you assuming a Highborne allied race would look identical to Nightborne except for different hairstyles and tattoos? Or would they be âmodernâ Highborne, who look more like Night Elves?
Okay. Theyâre not going to âfixâ their âmistakeâ by duplicating an allied race to the Alliance. So you might just need to get over that.
I know that if you read my post a second time and try a little harder youâll realize what was actually said.
They would be a reskin of the night elf model with a different skin texture and tattoos/hair styles. Not a nightborne copy, since the nightborne =/= highborne.
Looks at Void Elves Are you sure about that?
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If thatâs the only difference, Iâd rather just have expanded customization options for Night Elves.
Also, would this Highborne race have other classes besides mage available? And if yes, how would you explain that?
Also, what kind of âskin textureâ do you mean? Did you mean skin color?
âIf your requirements are Night Elves with âarcane tattoosâ and âunique hairstylesâ then youâre asking for a straight copy of a Horde raceâ
those are your words. Nightborne are a horde race, they are not highborne, i am looking for highborne.
I think this is what most people wanted. Just expanded customization options for currently existing playable races⌠We got allied races instead. /shrug.
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Less ret-cons and more inconsistencies in general. I recognize that Iâm the kind of guy who will catch inconsistences at a pedantic level which most casual or average consumers will not be bothered by. Yet I feel any creatives who are crafting a fictional world should strive for consistency in the rules and history of their world. With errors that become egregious enough the problems become more apparent. As they become apparent, every time you encounter one of these problems you are forced to stop and think, taking you out of the moment. It damaged narrative and it can get exponential worse over time.
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Iâd be okay with that, but with the allied race trend i donât think blizzard would do that when they can make a brand new race. Some would argue lightforged should have just been customization options for regular draenei.
Highborne had more than just mages. You can see Highborne ghosts in Dire Maul and the Well of Eternity dungeon had paladins.
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I donât mind allied races in general, but this just seems like it wouldnât be a big enough difference to be worthwhile. Maybe it would make sense storywise if the Highborne were only just now rejoining the Night Elves, but theyâve been around for quite some time.
At minimum, IF they did this, they should offer a free race change for all Night Elf mage players.
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Ah, so youâre looking to retcon existing Highborne to emphasis the themes and aesthetics of Nightborne, while still having a base model as Night Elves. Like if we pushed the idea of âLight Forged Goblinsâ as goblin models with the skin effects of Lightforged.
Fair enough, that isnât a straight up copy of a Horde race. Itâs just a completely unoriginal hybrid of two existing races. Cool, Iâm hoping the next allied race is something unique and interesting instead.
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I am assuming that your saying itâs wrong to look at the Nightborne and see it as Nelf lore. If so, thatâs not entirely fair. The majority of the broken isles is ne lore. The nborne and the nelves are linked by their shared past. The nborne were nightelves, Suramar was a nelvan city where our leader was born. The leaders of that city where quite possibly highborne based on the titles such as first arcanist, the highborne are now with the Alliance. Yes they have changed over the millennia, their history is one in the same.
You could, understandable, make the arugment that the same could be said for the Bevles. The difference is that they are quite a few generations removed from the Nightborne. The H/Belves are the descendants of the survivors of the WotA where as the Nelves, not all but nice chunck, are the survivors of that war. They could quite possibly have living relatives in that city. So to say that our lore should be restricted to the current representation of the Nelves would be ripping part of that lore that spans 10k+ years away.
If I missed the point of your quote please say so.
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They have the same problem dark irons had which was they already were in the Alliance, iâm sure they would find a way. Oh and about the night elf mage thing, i am pretty sure playable night elf mages are similar to playable dwarf shamans, being that they arenât actually highborne (wildhammers) and are just trained by them.
You havenât missed the point. While everything is going to have a connection in the same universe, NB lore is no more the same to Nelf lore as Huamn lore is the same to Forsaken lore. Forsaken are confirmed to still have breathing relatives but I donât cheer when Anduin wins a battle.
I mean, this sounds a lot like Dark Iron Dwarves, and they are an allied race.
You know, you donât seem to be a very nice person.
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Noted. How could I have told him that his idea is less original than Dark Irons, Lightforged and Magâhar while requiring an aesthetic retcon of the Highborne that have been in the game since Vanilla more politely?
Iâm open to ways of softening my language for the thinner skinned, I just donât know how.
Maybe we can get the thread back on the topic of retcons.
Like Sylvanas killing saurfangâs son thatâs probably gonna be used for 8.3 SoO 2.0
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You mean like what Blizzard did with Dark Irons?
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