Highborne culture is now apart of Night Elf society. Blizzard decided to give a variant of them to the horde (which they already have one of them mind you) and blatantly ignore alliance highborne. It should have just been the ruins of suramar, but ignoring alliance highborne is a lorecrime to night elves.
This is why i am afraid of what they’re going to do in nazjatar and the ruins of zin-azshari, i hope there is a night elf storyline there.
I’m still not sure Forsaken society is an Orwellion dystopia because Sylvanas didn’t want books about Lordaeron to enter into her city, at least not quite yet. Amelia Stone at least seems to indicate their society is still extremely free, that she’s allowed to set her own rules.
Then again, Stone would also be the least likely person to be bothered by such a practice since she cannot stand the sight of Kul’tiras anymore.
I think highborne would have been a tough nut to crack. Lorewise, the HB are second class citizens. Still trying to prove their worth to the Nelves and expected to do so for “many years” to come.
To focus on them and claim it as Nelf lore, I think, would have been the higher crime. I think the Nelf lore should be kept to the current iteration of Nelves. The ones that Nelf fans know and love, rather than some other iteration. e.g.: WotLK was not “Forsaken lore” except where the represented iteration of Forsaken actually show up. Them being former scourge is inconsequential.
This is why i want a Highborne allied race, it is still better and more unique than lightforged draenei lol
If I remember correctly, a major issue with it was that it was retroactively rewritten to have been going on for some time.
Living titans. It takes away from the tragedy of their deaths.
I hated the Pantheon being alive. Chronicles I confirmed they were dead, their remaining power transferring to the Keepers. Then Legion happened.
To be fair, Stone hasn’t exactly been steeped in Forsaken culture yet, as she’s fairly new and - to our knowledge - has never been to a Horde capital yet, nor did she ever go to Undercity. We don’t know what her experience would have been there, as at the moment, she’s basically an asset on Kul Tiras.
Fair, the extent of her interaction has basically been ‘I got to stab these scumbags I used to work with and that felt good.’ but at the end of the campaign she does end up a notably happier person then Zelling, I feel like these individuals are supposed to represent the different ways people can take being raised.
That’s also fair. Although I think that says more about the process of undeath rather than the society of the Forsaken.
Kind of? I’m sure negative emotions had a hand into it, but she has some rather pointed dialogue after you retrieve the scepter. The people she worked with were not good people, they were blackmailers and liars, and she couldn’t really do anything about that in the confines of human society and it felt good to give those people exactly what they deserved.
While she’s wacking away at a training dummy with Voss below deck she contemplates if this is what it’s actually like to be free, to play by your own rules, and concludes that ‘I could get used to this.’
I’m interested to see how Stone and Zelling develop with each other from here on out.
First thing: The Suramar globe thing interred in the Hall of Explorers in Ironforge. It’s stated(pretty sure) that the thing was recovered from the bottom of the sea. Of course, unless the thing was somehow caught on the edges of the city during the Sundering, it almost seems retcon-like to see it in Ironforge when the city is fine.
second thing: This is more annoying to me. During WC3, Thrall is all disgusted and says: “Why did we ever ally ourselves with those disgusting Forest Trolls?” And in my head i’m like: “You wut m8?” If anything, the Trolls were the LEAST evil of the Horde forces during WC2, cept the enslaved Dragons.
And meanwhile, Primal and Elder Torntusk are waving their arms in the air enthusiastically, a Horde banner flapping in the wind over their heads.
Thrall, ma bro. I love you, but get off your high horse.
?? How would a Highborne allied race be different from a Night Elf mage?
How is a lightforged draenei different from a draenei paladin? yellow eyes and different skin color. How is a void elf different from a blood elf shadow priest? Different hair styles and skin color.
A highborne allied race would have unqiue hairstyles and arcane tattoos/skin color, which is on par with all the other allied races except zandalari and kul tirans.
Void Elf is different from Blood Elf Shadow Priest in the following three ways.
Void Elves can be classes and specs other than Shadow Priest.
Void Elves can teleport.
Void Elves are loyal to the Alliance.
Anyway there’s already a Highborne allied race in game with unique hairstyles and arcane tattoos.
Nightborne don’t consist of just highborne, and highborne are literally in the Alliance.
So what you’re saying is that Void Elves and Lightforged are too similar to Blood Elf Shadowpriests and Draenei Paladins. But somehow Highborne are not too similar to Nightborne?
Neat, good luck with that.
My point is if reskin allied races are going to exist, why can’t we have good ones like highborne?
Tbf, what you’re looking for is availabale. If I want to play a Gnome or a Dwarf, I would roll the faction that they are on.
Because you’re not asking for a reskin. If your requirements are Night Elves with “arcane tattoos” and “unique hairstyles” then you’re asking for a straight copy of a Horde race.
Nightborne should have joined the Alliance, is the point.